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Old 03-14-2010, 03:25 PM   #81 (permalink)
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why hide it. put it on an show it
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I would love to give this a try...
Man I would think that would chaff the penis.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:07 PM   #82 (permalink)
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If you cannot be fairly sure of a "warning shot" to the forehead, the pelvis might be a much easier target.
As vascular as the pelvis is it might not be a bad target zone(although in court it would probably look worse then a shot to the chest).
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:12 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Man I would think that would chaff the penis.
Hahaha.....uhhh I don't think it's that kind of ring...
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:19 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Man, I really want a PPK now, for multiple reasons. I really like the clean lines, and apparently it's a well made gun (according to reviews). The size also seems right, and .380 seems like a decent round. The one thing that bothers me is the decocker failure earlier S&W PPK's experienced. I assume they fixed that, but I hardly ever use a decocker anyway. I don't trust them...

Also, I have to admit, I'm a James Bond fan.
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:23 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Man, I really want a PPK now, for multiple reasons. I really like the clean lines, and apparently it's a well made gun (according to reviews). The size also seems right, and .380 seems like a decent round. The one thing that bothers me is the decocker failure earlier S&W PPK's experienced. I assume they fixed that, but I hardly ever use a decocker anyway. I don't trust them...

Also, I have to admit, I'm a James Bond fan.

Sig P232 - I actually like the European mag release (never accidentally bump it) and its a non-Smith copy of the PPK. I came very close to putting a Russian Makarov into this slot instead, but was not satisfied with the sights.



PPK, Bersa, P232, Makarov - you can't really go wrong with any of the four. The Bersa and Makarov are far better values really. I chose the Sig but it was as much a want decision as anything else.

Things you should note: All of these, being straight blow back designs, have more recoil than you would expect from a 380. Nothing harsh, just more than you would expect. 380 ammo is hard to find right now, at least around here.
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:47 AM   #86 (permalink)
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You can buy a box of 500 rds of .380 at Cabelas of all places for 149.99. Get it while you can!
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:33 AM   #87 (permalink)
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nothing like shooting oneself while re holstering a glock
If you don't have good trigger discipline, you can shoot yourself with anything, because you're completely unsafe with a firearm.

If you have to rely on a little metal switch to be safe with a firearm, you will never be able to be safe with a firearm, because you don't have a safe attitude.

All 4 rules, all the time. If you can't do that, you're not safe.

Personally, I don't like manual safeties, and I don't carry anything that has one. My few pistols that have manual safeties are either "oddities" like my CZ-52, which I only own because I like the round, or target .22s, and I never turn on the safety on a target gun.
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Man, I really want a PPK now, for multiple reasons. I really like the clean lines, and apparently it's a well made gun (according to reviews). The size also seems right, and .380 seems like a decent round. The one thing that bothers me is the decocker failure earlier S&W PPK's experienced. I assume they fixed that, but I hardly ever use a decocker anyway. I don't trust them...

Also, I have to admit, I'm a James Bond fan.



S&W did a recall to fix that issue, my only question was if it was built to same original specs, how did they get a failure
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Old 03-15-2010, 12:03 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Sig P232 - I actually like the European mag release (never accidentally bump it) and its a non-Smith copy of the PPK.
I'll second that, I have a late model P230(virtually the same as the P232) and it is my favorite gun.
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the bersa .380 is an awesome pistol. very much like the ppk can ususaly find them for around 300$
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