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Old 09-28-2012, 08:02 AM   #931 (permalink)
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my buddy has a 690 smc and he loves it. supermoto style is the only way to go imo. so much better than a cruiser or sport bike. safer too!
Assuming you are going to use it on the road I do not understand the logic behind this. The only advantage I see on a supermoto is the ability to see over cars and this is somewhat overstated. Sport bikes tend to have better braking and handling (on pavement).

It seems everyone wants to talk about which motorcylce is safer. As long as you are on a motorcycle on the streets "safer" is a very relative term. You are still on the same road as people in a Lincoln Navigator who are on their cell phone, drinking coffee, and adjusting the radio.

You are not riding a motorcylce because it is "safe". Trying to use it as a premise seems to lack face validity.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:04 PM   #932 (permalink)
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the advantage of a supermoto is you have more control when it comes to evading harm. try hoping a curb on a sport bike or cruiser and see what that gets you. you'll also have more control of the bike if you have to leave the pavement in an emergency.

i disagree that a sport bike has better braking. i don't see either style of bike having an advantage when it comes to brakes when you consider the weight differences of the bikes.

a supermoto will out handle a sport bike anyday of the week other than high speed straight lines. get on some roads with lots of tight curves and a supermoto will leave a sport bike in the dust.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:52 PM   #933 (permalink)
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I'll give you the go anywhere portion of your argument but I am not so certain on braking or handling - at least on pavement
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:54 PM   #934 (permalink)
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the advantage of a supermoto is you have more control when it comes to evading harm. try hoping a curb on a sport bike or cruiser and see what that gets you. you'll also have more control of the bike if you have to leave the pavement in an emergency.

i disagree that a sport bike has better braking. i don't see either style of bike having an advantage when it comes to brakes when you consider the weight differences of the bikes.

a supermoto will out handle a sport bike anyday of the week other than high speed straight lines. get on some roads with lots of tight curves and a supermoto will leave a sport bike in the dust.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:00 PM   #935 (permalink)
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I'll give you the go anywhere portion of your argument but I am not so certain on braking or handling - at least on pavement
If motor cycles are anything like cars than the weight of the car and the grip of the tires matters a heck of a lot more in an emergency stop than the brakes themselves. As long as the brakes are able to lock up the tires then better brakes will not result in any better emergency braking. We're ignoring extended length racing and brake fad in this discussion since we're talking about street safety.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:02 PM   #936 (permalink)
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If motor cycles are anything like cars than the weight of the car and the grip of the tires matters a heck of a lot more in an emergency stop than the brakes themselves. As long as the brakes are able to lock up the tires then better brakes will not result in any better emergency braking. We're ignoring extended length racing and brake fad in this discussion since we're talking about street safety.
Fair enough. My dedicated street tires on my street bike offer far more traction ON PAVEMENT than any dual sport tire. The wider profile tires on my street bike also give a better contact area and more traction. I assume both bikes have the ability to fully lock the tires - I know my sport bike does.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:11 PM   #937 (permalink)
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ABS on SportBikes is a godsend IMO. Although I will say this: At speed I'm willing to bet a sportbike stops faster assuming the rider is good enough not to go over the bars.
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It's a 135db Stebel Nautilus air horn and it gets the attention of EVERYBODY, RIGHT NOW. It pushes encroaching cars out of my lane and stops inattentive drivers from pulling out in front of me. At least it has so far.

EVERY bike I ever get, I'll install one of these on (though it might be difficult on a bike with a radiator).
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Speaking of safety, here's the best safety accessory I've bought:

It's a 135db Stebel Nautilus air horn and it gets the attention of EVERYBODY, RIGHT NOW. It pushes encroaching cars out of my lane and stops inattentive drivers from pulling out in front of me. At least it has so far.

EVERY bike I ever get, I'll install one of these on (though it might be difficult on a bike with a radiator).
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