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Old 03-05-2013, 05:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone has a "duty" to help the person out.
Technically, a peace officer would. Henceforth, why I would have to help, and would with no second thought.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:59 PM   #42 (permalink)
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sure, but very few of those people were high on adrenaline. most of them calmly walked away.


I think only 2 reacted calmly: the guy in the parka and recording guy. Past that, several tried to help, and everyone else was obviously under duress. We don't know how many were intent on calling 911. We don't know how many were actually recorded. I think it's safe to assume these were "pick of the litter" clips.

Besides, how many of us are mind readers? Why are we so quick to damn? Why is no one asking "why are people reacting like that?" but instead jumping straight to "PEOPLE ARE ALL TERRIBLE AND I'M THE BEST!!1!"
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:27 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I think only 2 reacted calmly: the guy in the parka and recording guy. Past that, several tried to help, and everyone else was obviously under duress. We don't know how many were intent on calling 911. We don't know how many were actually recorded. I think it's safe to assume these were "pick of the litter" clips.

Besides, how many of us are mind readers? Why are we so quick to damn? Why is no one asking "why are people reacting like that?" but instead jumping straight to "PEOPLE ARE ALL TERRIBLE AND I'M THE BEST!!1!"
well there's the business man who just turned around, the couch guy who even told the other guy hold the couch to walk away, the old man with the grocery bags, for example.

people are probably quick to damn because this video makes them realize the neighbors they depend on in case of emergency may not be dependable at all.

speaking of "why are people reacting like that," in case of physical danger, just stand there and protect your precious hair:

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Old 03-05-2013, 07:22 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I will concede that many of them didn't react the way they "should" have, but my major point is this: we don't know what's going through each person's mind. We are too quick to judge. This video is a poor representative of an "experiment." We know nothing about what we watched, and I'd imagine that the clips were selected to make us feel a certain way. I'd say it worked in that regard.

It does make me curious what goes through people's mind during these kinds of events, though. Here's the Bystander Effect Wiki article.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:54 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I would help because that's what right. If I got screwed over afterwards, at least I'll know I did the right thing.
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"PEOPLE ARE ALL TERRIBLE AND I'M THE BEST!!1!"
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But really?!? a fire extinguisher?!?
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Old 03-05-2013, 08:21 PM   #46 (permalink)
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That's a dirtbag thing to say, hope your friends and family don't count on you to help them ...

I would help because that's what right. If I got screwed over afterwards, at least I'll know I did the right thing.
More logical really. Even your reason to help is selfish. Knowing that "you did the right thing" boosts your self image.

What would I have done? I would probably have stood there and watched a bit to assess the situation and probably would have tried to stop the strangling if it kept going. Choking someone isn't a quick kill and at fist glance its hard to tell which person is the 'bad guy'. But in this video I'd look like an idiot douchebag because I just stood there for the 5 seconds they gave each test subject. In the video, any of the people that walked away might have done so to call the cop that was standing outside the building. It's pretty interesting the assumptions that we make.

And as for your hopes, I agree. Don't count on anyone to help you, nothing good happens when you sit around and wait for others to help.
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Old 03-05-2013, 08:25 PM   #47 (permalink)
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They're lucky there wasn't anybody concealed carrying... this little "experiment" could have ended real badly.
good thing it was in new york =P

had that have been florida... lol



but yeah, that is sad how so few helped.... and one guy with a camera phone, really?!
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:41 PM   #48 (permalink)
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More logical really. Even your reason to help is selfish. Knowing that "you did the right thing" boosts your self image.

What would I have done? I would probably have stood there and watched a bit to assess the situation and probably would have tried to stop the strangling if it kept going. Choking someone isn't a quick kill and at fist glance its hard to tell which person is the 'bad guy'. But in this video I'd look like an idiot douchebag because I just stood there for the 5 seconds they gave each test subject. In the video, any of the people that walked away might have done so to call the cop that was standing outside the building. It's pretty interesting the assumptions that we make.

And as for your hopes, I agree. Don't count on anyone to help you, nothing good happens when you sit around and wait for others to help.
Well, I have been in a situation where I could have helped or ran away. And I helped. Because it was the right thing to do. It has nothing with me feeling good about it or to boast. For me, it's common sense to jump in. Yes, it's probably stupid because I could get hurt or killed. Running away is easy (for a lot of people, instinctive ... don't blame them, that's just how people react). Now I'm not saying that I'm better than anybody, because really I'm not. I'm not saying I'd take a bullet for a random stranger on the street either. But if you were in that guy's shoes, the one getting strangled... wouldn't you want somebody to help you? Just standing there and watching, or even worse, pulling out your phone and recording it is just... unacceptable.
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They're lucky there wasn't anybody concealed carrying... this little "experiment" could have ended real badly.
Took the words from my mouth..
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:24 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I've said it once, and I'll say it again...there's no guarantee you'll react like you think you should, even if you disagree with the results of what the "average" person does. Google Stanley Milgram. He wanted to know how ordinary Germans came to allow Jewish people and others to be murdered and experimented on.
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