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Old 04-10-2013, 02:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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yikes, and judging from your post before that one, he was let go scott free?

my philosophy professor once said kids and the disabled have the most rights unprotected, even more than inmates. i think i keep getting more convinced the more i hear.
I edited it to clarify further.

He is correct. Throughout the divorce as an intelligent child and dealing with how people have abused my mother or in general, denied her rights, I have learned that well.
She is not a vegetable. She is not on the level that one would typically associate with Down's Syndrome, etc. She simply has substantially slower cognitive abilities, but is still able to live on her own.. for the most part..
(Ever wonder why I have so many sales / random business ventures..?..)
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:15 AM   #22 (permalink)
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meanwhile in 'murika 3 California teens arrested for assault after girl's suicide - Hawaii News - Honolulu Star-Advertiser

at least SOMEONE was caught.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Yeah, at least.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:41 AM   #24 (permalink)
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i just heard about that.......just sad.

Do you guys think that this type of crime is on the rise, or rather that it was always like this and it is because of media, that we hear about it more often?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:42 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Well, it depends. The kids who got in trouble a lot at an earlier age realized that you can get away with anything till your 18 (anything seen as a felony around age 17). And they abuse it.
I never realized how easy underage kids get away with things till I was 18-19 years old. It's quite ridiculous. Steal something and get caught, get a slap on the wrist and a phone call/talking to to your parents.
This is the difference between generations. I would of preferred going to jail then coming home to my dad. Today corporal punishment is a no-no. Kids have no fear of their parents.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:17 PM   #26 (permalink)
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i doubt it, simply because that kind of photo doesn't result in classmates calling you asking for sex.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Rape is wrong, any way you put it, but let me play the devil's advocate about media hype.

I'll link this photo and describe it since it's definitely not work safe, it's some drunk guy, boxers pulled down, smiley face sharpie'd on his *** with a pipe sticking out his *** crack.

Passed Out Photos - Wow. I would be majorly pissed if that is a bowl.

Now say this photo gets circulated, as humiliating as it is. Is it rape? You could loosely argue penetration. Their are millions of photos like this posted on the internet, both men and women.

Maybe it was a similar photo posted of this girl. Maybe that's why nobody did anything about it. Maybe she wasn't naked and just in her underwear (as passed out drunk people often are), and while inappropriate nobody might of thought it was child porn. Of course if her parents saw it they are going to go through the roof and want to murder anyone who was responsible.

Yes, a picture like this could really ruin somebody's social life, make them want to quit school, and compounded with other problems lead them to suicide.

Point is, these guys could be guilty as hell of rape and deserve whats coming, but without having all the facts the media and everyone else is quick to blame the police and other students for not doing anything.
I would say that the photo does depicts rape. What is the definition of rape? Sexual intercourse in which at least one of the persons does not consent. Clearly he does not, or rather cannot give consent. Until the recipient says its okay, such an act cannot be considered to be okay.
The social perception of an act of crime/joke on another person blurs and depends on how the recipient perceives the act. Does he/she perceive it as a joke that was played on him/her, or does he/she see it as a violation of oneself. For example, sacking a friend and sacking a complete stranger. The stranger would perceive it as an act of assault. However, when you do that to a friend, is it assault? I would have to say, it depends on the relationship. If you guys are "bros" then probably it wouldnt be perceived as assault. But that perception depends on your relationship and what each recipient deems as acceptable. If that an act breeches what the recipient perceives as acceptable, then that act can no longer be classified as a joke, but a crime.
While it can get blurry, IMO that line is pretty distinct when it becomes sexual. Any type of sexual act MUST obtain consent from the recipient. If he/she says no, then that means no. If a he/she says nothing, then it is still a no. It is only a yes if he/she says yes.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
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This happens everywhere, you just don't hear about it. Not too many people want to be publicly known as being raped, or molested, its embarrassing. Generally, people in these situations are good at hiding it, so it goes in noticed. But trust me, it happens everywhere, if you think your general area is free from this type of behavior, your just not looking hard enough. Wherever there is people, there is going to be bad people, I don't care what your geographic location or social demographic is.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Sad thing is, things like this are a common occurrence. Sometimes it's something simple like a guy being a little too pushy and invading a chick's personal space (often really physically). To most that's a minor thing, but it still doesn't make it right.

Then of course there's events that just get completely out of hand and are really traumatizing and problematic.

They've always happened, which is a shame. But the media is reporting on it more now, which I think is a good thing sometimes as it brings attention to a problem that's WORLDWIDE. But at the same time, people at news stations are making $ off of tragedies that are happening to other people. Someone covers a moving story about a girl being attacked, that might mean a raise or promotion in the office. Very sad to think about.

(same with gun violence really, UN studies show gun violence in U.S. is actually on a steady decline, just more stories are being put in our news so it seems like it's escalating).
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