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Old 08-19-2013, 11:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Applying an RPG Min-maxer strategy to Fantasy Football?

So at work they're thinking of starting a fantasy football league ($20 buy in). Part of me wants to sign up, even though the extent of my football knowledge is "those guys usually run, those guy usually try to catch, he throws, everyone else tries to get in someones way, ball hopefully goes that way." Really, most of the positions are a mystery to me, and I really have no interest in solving that mystery as it wouldn't increase my passive enjoyment of watching the Packer's play (though those guys really need more of those running guys, whatever the heck that position or positions are called).

Anyway, I tend to know a RPG when I see one, and when I find a new one the first thing to do is of course break the system. I heard more than one member of the old gaming group go "Your halfling thief hit for how much damage with a dagger? No way you have that much of a to hit bonus! And what do you mean you still have more attacks?!?" Ah the horrible things you can do when you find the loopholes and exploits.

So part of me wants to apply that strategy to fantasy football. Find the underutilized rules, the loopholes people disregard in the name of "realism", the strategies people overlook because they actually care about the players they're fielding.

Yeah, it's probably a bit too evil. Kind of like how I ended up being uninvited from an overly serious Vampire LARP back in college. I just brought up the idea of playing as Malkavian who would in-character try to start a pen and paper Rifts game and suddenly they stopped asking me (and any group that wouldn't find that idea hilarious isn't a group for me).

So, should I be evil, or should I let the actual fans have their fun?
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So at work they're thinking of starting a fantasy football league ($20 buy in). Part of me wants to sign up, even though the extent of my football knowledge is "those guys usually run, those guy usually try to catch, he throws, everyone else tries to get in someones way, ball hopefully goes that way." Really, most of the positions are a mystery to me, and I really have no interest in solving that mystery as it wouldn't increase my passive enjoyment of watching the Packer's play (though those guys really need more of those running guys, whatever the heck that position or positions are called).

Anyway, I tend to know a RPG when I see one, and when I find a new one the first thing to do is of course break the system. I heard more than one member of the old gaming group go "Your halfling thief hit for how much damage with a dagger? No way you have that much of a to hit bonus! And what do you mean you still have more attacks?!?" Ah the horrible things you can do when you find the loopholes and exploits.

So part of me wants to apply that strategy to fantasy football. Find the underutilized rules, the loopholes people disregard in the name of "realism", the strategies people overlook because they actually care about the players they're fielding.

Yeah, it's probably a bit too evil. Kind of like how I ended up being uninvited from an overly serious Vampire LARP back in college. I just brought up the idea of playing as Malkavian who would in-character try to start a pen and paper Rifts game and suddenly they stopped asking me (and any group that wouldn't find that idea hilarious isn't a group for me).

So, should I be evil, or should I let the actual fans have their fun?
Euhh... I don't know if there are that many loopholes in fantasy... there's a good bit of luck involved with injuries and whatnot, but you really need to know the stats and players.
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sports is one of those things that is analyzed to death. I think the only obscure thing you are going to find that would catch regulars offguard is a once-a-season call by the ref's where nobody else knows the rules. Odds are that's not going to help you any because you are hands off from both the event and the ruling.

However, I think you should play. I don't know how it works, but there is obviously a scoring system. If you break that down and find out where the biases are, you could see if your RPG background could come in handy with picking who you choose to play based on statistics alone and the next team you will be playing.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So part of me wants to apply that strategy to fantasy football. Find the underutilized rules, the loopholes people disregard in the name of "realism", the strategies people overlook because they actually care about the players they're fielding.
like the others have said... i'm not exactly sure how you would go about "exploiting" anything. im not sure what you would consider a "loophole" that would be disregarded in the name of "realism". or underutilized rules? yea... not sure about that one either.

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However, I think you should play. I don't know how it works, but there is obviously a scoring system. If you break that down and find out where the biases are, you could see if your RPG background could come in handy with picking who you choose to play based on statistics alone and the next team you will be playing.
I agree with him, try playing. it might actually convert you from a casual fan to a hardcore fan. but what he says about choosing your team... that's the normal micromanagement of a fantasy team. no rpg background needed, heh.

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Old 08-22-2013, 10:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I figure you saw something like this. It doesn't really work that way unfortunately. It is sort of like trying to get someone to create a MTG deck with out knowing any of the game breaking cards.....you NEED to know who some of the players are and what they are capable of.
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Fantasy Football is already min-maxing. There's no role-playing, there's no sportsmanship, it's not about realism (unless you play in a full-roster dynasty league) so it's all about crunching the numbers.
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