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Old 07-03-2014, 06:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I understand "wireless transmission," butI'm not sure how they will provide it "free." Someone still has to generate the power. That costs money.
It's not that the electricity would be free to produce. The problem, as I understand it, is that it would be impossible to meter who used how much and charge them accordingly.

Read up on Tesla and you should quickly see why this is a political issue.

And I think I'm close enough to the line as I want to get. Continue at your own peril.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Aside from the obvious problems from blocking out the sun if we collected everything the sun gave us for power, collecting the power isn't a problem. .
Talks of solar power always end up with nuclear power.

There is a mountain of problems with solar energy. But lots of countries are dumping lots of money into the problem. I think they all see oil running out in 20-30 years, and there is a sense of panic.

The number always floating around is you would need 200,000 square miles to make all the energy we need. This assumes 100% effecieny, but generic solar panels are %10. Plus, transmission/storage issues might relate to another loss resulting in %1 usable energy coming out.

This might require as much as 20,000,000 square miles. So then people say, well, the Sahara desert is 20,000,000 square miles, and nobody lives there. Then they look at the cost, resources, and space needed......

and then people start looking at other options. Hydro and wind look great, but simply could never make enough energy to power everyone. But there is something that could- Nuclear energy. Its "green", and enough fuel to last a million years.

In which any talk of nuclear energy usually kills the debate in the first place.
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Old 07-03-2014, 08:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Talks of solar power always end up with nuclear power.

There is a mountain of problems with solar energy. But lots of countries are dumping lots of money into the problem. I think they all see oil running out in 20-30 years, and there is a sense of panic.

The number always floating around is you would need 200,000 square miles to make all the energy we need. This assumes 100% effecieny, but generic solar panels are %10. Plus, transmission/storage issues might relate to another loss resulting in %1 usable energy coming out.

This might require as much as 20,000,000 square miles. So then people say, well, the Sahara desert is 20,000,000 square miles, and nobody lives there. Then they look at the cost, resources, and space needed......

and then people start looking at other options. Hydro and wind look great, but simply could never make enough energy to power everyone. But there is something that could- Nuclear energy. Its "green", and enough fuel to last a million years.

In which any talk of nuclear energy usually kills the debate in the first place.
"green?" we are 50+ years behind schedule on inventing a method to safely clean the contaminants. we have 50+ years of stockpiled irradiated waste.
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Old 07-03-2014, 09:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Talks of solar power always end up with nuclear power.

There is a mountain of problems with solar energy. But lots of countries are dumping lots of money into the problem. I think they all see oil running out in 20-30 years, and there is a sense of panic.

The number always floating around is you would need 200,000 square miles to make all the energy we need. This assumes 100% effecieny, but generic solar panels are %10. Plus, transmission/storage issues might relate to another loss resulting in %1 usable energy coming out.

This might require as much as 20,000,000 square miles. So then people say, well, the Sahara desert is 20,000,000 square miles, and nobody lives there. Then they look at the cost, resources, and space needed......

and then people start looking at other options. Hydro and wind look great, but simply could never make enough energy to power everyone. But there is something that could- Nuclear energy. Its "green", and enough fuel to last a million years.

In which any talk of nuclear energy usually kills the debate in the first place.
I don't understand why people are okay with nuclear energy.

You're right, solar technology isn't that efficient, but when combined with wind and hydro you can at least cut down on the amount of dirty electricity that we're using. Even if we halved it the environment would be much better off.

Not to change the topic too much, but I hate when people argue that electric cars are just as bad for the environment because the electricity we use comes from coal and nuclear power plants. If we had a proper commitment to solar, wind and hydro electric power that wouldn't be the case.

Tesla Motors has already proved to the world that an electric car that can be used as a daily driver is doable. It's about time the rest of the world caught up.
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I don't understand why people are okay with nuclear energy.

You're right, solar technology isn't that efficient, but when combined with wind and hydro you can at least cut down on the amount of dirty electricity that we're using. Even if we halved it the environment would be much better off.
Please look up the amount of power generated by solar + wind + thermal. Then look up how much power we, the planet, use. It's drops in a bucket man, even halving the the amount generated from "dirty" fuels is a dream.



I don't get why people get so hung up on nuclear waste material. There seems to be this perception that it generates absurd amounts of waste. That is simply not true. The efficiency of nuclear power means it generates something like 8000 times more energy per gram of material than fossil fuels generate.

The problem with solar is it does not generate enough power for the land it needs. Look up Ivanpah, pretty much the best solar plant, if you don't believe me.


And on the original topic, sounds awesome, I hope they can get the funding.
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I don't get why people get so hung up on nuclear waste material. There seems to be this perception that it generates absurd amounts of waste. That is simply not true. The efficiency of nuclear power means it generates something like 8000 times more energy per gram of material than fossil fuels generate.
except nuclear waste doesn't go away. we humanly have no technology to decompose it. nuclear power was originally rolled out with the expectation of coming up with a way to decompose the waste in the "near future" that has passed us by half a century. 220,000 years worth of half life is longer than recorded human history. how many generations of future cleaning efforts are we exactly loaning?

moreover, solar power is not as inefficient as people in this thread make it out to be. germany just produced 50% of their electricity from solar power. not africa. not mexico. germany. there aren't even any large deserts there.

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except nuclear waste doesn't go away. we humanly have no technology to decompose it. nuclear power was originally rolled out with the expectation of coming up with a way to decompose the waste in the "near future" that has passed us by half a century. 220,000 years worth of half life is longer than recorded human history. how many generations of future cleaning efforts are we exactly loaning?
there's always the option to send it into space, but what if it doesn't make it there? Nuclear energy is great, but without a proper way to dispose of it, it's a huge hazard.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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This device was essentially a microwave. Tesla built a small version and heated up leftover Chinese food with it.
Somebody better them Russians, the microwave has already been invented.

The transmission part, well that's radar, and we've been tracking those commie bombers for several years with one of those gizmos.
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