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Old 07-07-2014, 09:17 AM   #71 (permalink)
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As I previously mentioned, MSR reactors for thorium can also consume spent nuclear fuel and get the remaining energy out of it. Conventional nuclear reactors only use about 10-15% of the potential fissionable mass in the fuel pucks/rods, while MSRs can use up about 95% of it.... Their energy yield from "recycled" fuel is more than they got out of it in the first place. All that terrible nuclear waste we've buried is actually a massive energy gold mine waiting to be exploited by new reactor tech.
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Old 07-07-2014, 04:45 PM   #72 (permalink)
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It's not that the electricity would be free to produce. The problem, as I understand it, is that it would be impossible to meter who used how much and charge them accordingly.

Read up on Tesla and you should quickly see why this is a political issue.

And I think I'm close enough to the line as I want to get. Continue at your own peril.
I get that, but it would probably just lead to a flat fee or flat tax like my sewer bill for example. I'm a new homeowner and was wondering how they came up with the number they did for my bill. They told me it was not metered, it was a flat rate. This is not free.

Also, I think the EMF danger people are looking for is Electromagnetic field. It's hazard to us depends on frequency and field strength.
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Maybe they can get JP Morgan to finance this project. ?
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Why? One of the main issues with "alternative" sources in America today is they are not operating on a free and open market. They are being put in and the power companies are paying a premium for any energy that is converted to electricity by them. The public is financing private companies that will, if these alternative methods are successful, realize vast profits. We are very effectively moving all of the risk onto the public while assuring profits will stay private.

The concern should not only be about viability it should be about the public politics and finances around what these private companies are doing.

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Kemmler murdered Matilda "Tillie" Ziegler, his common-law wife,[2] with a hatchet on March 29, 1889, and was sentenced to death by electrocution at New York's Auburn Prison.[3] His lawyers appealed, arguing that electrocution was cruel and unusual punishment. George Westinghouse was the main financial backer of the powerful and potentially deadly alternating current. After safety measures were taken in the future, AC would become the standard for distribution of main electric power. It powered the electric chair, but Westinghouse actively supported Kemmler's appeal regardless. The appeal failed, partly due to the even greater financial support of the powerful financial tycoon J. P. Morgan. Morgan was backing Thomas Edison and wanted to use the execution to show that Edison's direct current was a much safer way to provide electric power.
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so at the end of the day the same irresponsible thing is happening: put the waste in a cave for someone else way into the future to figure out,
Well our government is doing that with their (our) finances. Why should they be any different here?
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As I previously mentioned, MSR reactors for thorium can also consume spent nuclear fuel and get the remaining energy out of it. Conventional nuclear reactors only use about 10-15% of the potential fissionable mass in the fuel pucks/rods, while MSRs can use up about 95% of it.... Their energy yield from "recycled" fuel is more than they got out of it in the first place. All that terrible nuclear waste we've buried is actually a massive energy gold mine waiting to be exploited by new reactor tech.
I saw a TED by this genious kid who joked about almost being finished with high school after designing and presenting a MSR. I thought it was pretty well thought out and reasonably presented.
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so how many more three mile islands are allowed to happen within your range of "viable and safe?"

how many chernobyls?
Nuclear Thorium reactors cannot melt down.
It is not that kind of fuel or process.
Thorium will save us all.
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I saw a TED by this genious kid who joked about almost being finished with high school after designing and presenting a MSR. I thought it was pretty well thought out and reasonably presented.
Hah! Yea they are honestly very simple design. Practical to develop and build with the latest high temp alloy and composite materials today. MSR reactors are high temp, low pressure, and potentially extremely efficient and safe. Of all the fourth gen reactor design principles, they are my favourite... And they are the best application for thorium power.
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Why? One of the main issues with "alternative" sources in America today is they are not operating on a free and open market. They are being put in and the power companies are paying a premium for any energy that is converted to electricity by them. The public is financing private companies that will, if these alternative methods are successful, realize vast profits. We are very effectively moving all of the risk onto the public while assuring profits will stay private.

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/I have probably crossed the line. I'm not the first but I will attempt to refrain from posting more on this matter. I held out for like three days.


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In 1900, Morgan invested $150,000 in inventor Nikola Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower, a high power transatlantic wireless communication project. By 1903, Tesla had spent the initial investment without completing the project, and with Guglielmo Marconi already making regular transatlantic radio transmissions with far less expensive equipment, Morgan declined to fund Tesla any further. Tesla tried to generate more interest in Wardenclyffe by revealing its ability to transmit wireless electricity, but the loss of Morgan as a backer, and the 1903 "rich man's panic" on Wall Street, dried up any further investments.[18][19][20]

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