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Old 05-05-2008, 12:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
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How silly, another example of blaming objects for the stupidity of people. If someone waving a fake gun gets shot for refusing to obey the police, then they had it coming, its not the toy gun's fault.
I agree wholeheartedly.

I am going to support the law though, because it takes the blame off the officer. At least a little bit.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ever see a SP8 in the dark, or a SpecOps marker at a glance. Yea they look real enough for the general public.
Or a RAP5. Unless you're close enough to read the warning text you'd think that thing is an MP5.

While I agree that the sheeple in this country are too paranoid about seeing firearms, I can understand it to some extent when it's a firearm (or look-alike) that's probably not just someone's personal carry arm. I see a guy with a .38 in a pancake holster and I think undercover/off duty or private citizen with a personal defense arm. I see a guy running down the street with an M4, and I start thinking something nefarious might be going on.

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Probably a MAC-10, think SS carries those still, right? I would call that a machine pistol and not an assault weapon, but apparently they think the secret service is part of the FBI too...so not much credence there.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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From what i understand the Secret Service who escort the President and VP carry 2 backup weapons. A p90 could be slung underarm realistically, but it would be hard to conceal.
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Maybe an HKX7, a little smaller than the P90? I'm not up to snuff on what is being issued anymore.
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In the vids of the Reagan shooting, you can see Secret Service with Uzi's, which in the smaller form could easily be concealed.
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How silly, another example of blaming objects for the stupidity of people. If someone waving a fake gun gets shot for refusing to obey the police, then they had it coming, its not the toy gun's fault.
I agree. This is why I paint the tips of all my firearms in safety orange. There is no law against it and I get a better drop on the cops.

Anyway, if a kid is waving even a toy in a threatening manner at a cop, that kid's parents are already raising him to hate cops. Best to nab the cop killers early. I was raised to respect the police and would never ever have pointed even a fake toy gun at a cop.
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I agree. This is why I paint the tips of all my firearms in safety orange. There is no law against it and I get a better drop on the cops.

Wow, you might just have a point there.
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Wow, you might just have a point there.
One is just plain stupid, one is absolutely dangerous. Of course they try to pass legislation against stupidity which is like trying to bite your own face off.
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I read somewher (might have even been here) that some crooks have taken to painting real guns orange or pink to fool police..
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Just wait until I'm Dictator. I will be sure to make stupidity punishable by death.
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