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Old 06-18-2008, 03:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:56 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The thing about Metal-licka now is that they're all about making money.
Most bands who say they arent about the money either have gobs of it and are full of something else, or suck so bad that no one wants to pay them.
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:06 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I blame Bob Rock's silly self. Only thing good from his influence was the "black album".
The Black Album was my least favorite. He turned one of the most technically complex metal bands, into "New Kids on the Block METAL".

After Justice, certaintly the greatest metal album ever, the Black Album was such a profound disappointment.

And I place the blame on Bob Rock. He was very vocal in wanting to make Metallica "Mainstream, something everyone can enjoy". Bleh!! That just means money.

Though I don't blame Metallica for wanting more money. We all said they were selling out when they signed Megaforce. And sold out when they released "ONE" on MTV, then again with picking up Bob Rock, and again with Napster, etc.

SO I also have high hopes for Rubin. At least he won't demand to play an instrument!
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:25 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Here's a little hint kids- Anything after Master of Puppets... sucks!
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Ride the lightning. Awesome!
Kill'em All. Even better.
Master of Puppets. Excellent.
After that boys and girls it has been downhill. This is coming from a diehard fan. I keep buying their albums hoping to hear some good riffs but it hasn't happened for a while. Heres hoping this is the one.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:23 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Here's a little hint kids- Anything after Master of Puppets... sucks!
No way, Justice was excellent, and the Black album was decent. Load was the harbinger of their downfall.

I'm hoping all the comments that "this album will be their best since Master/Ride" aren't just marketing crap to get people to buy it.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:33 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I can't wait to download it

This I agree with 100%.

With all the bullcrap they pulled with Napster, and charging what they do for concert tickets....sold out and all that blah blah, I made a decision long ago to NEVER PAY anything again in support of them. No albums, no shirts, no concerts, nothing.

If it sucks like everything else they have come out with lately, I am pretty sure it will, I won't have to worry about it anyway.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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No way, Justice was excellent, and the Black album was decent. Load was the harbinger of their downfall.
From the comments above, I can see there are some different opinions.

As a guitarists, Justice was the most musically complex album I'd ever tried to master. Thats where they earned the "Thinking mans metal" title.

It did lack the speed of earlier songs, like "Fight fire with fire" and "trapped under ice", instead using very complex scales and arrangements. I loved it. its still my favorite album of all time.

But, "it wasnt commercial", in the words of Bob Rock. Even for the Headbangers ball. So Metallica was commercialized, and the Black Album was the result. I know some love the album, but it was too... "hooky" for me. The pacing was sped up, but all the complexity of Justice was taken out.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:05 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I think it is funny that I can ususally tell someones age by asking "what was their last album before they lost it".
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