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Old 03-22-2012, 12:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alley Cat Question

Hey guy, I was thinking about rebuilding my new Alley cat, and I was wondering if this kit had a hammer ring, because mine is looking pretty dinged up.

FreeStyle 2004 O-Ring Kit

If not, does anyone else have them for sale new or Should I just put up a WTB thread on the forums?

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Old 03-22-2012, 01:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thats a freestyle kit. Its not going to have anything that fits your cat unless its by total coincidence.

I suggest ordering this kit:
http://www.shop.icdproducts.com/Alle...t-AC-TCMNR.htm
Over any others, the valve seal it other kits are of a hard plastic and dont seal very well at all.
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Old 03-22-2012, 03:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The hammer o-ring, if it's the same one I'm thinking of, (white and about an inch or two in front from where you screw in the cocking lug) is made out of nylon or some other ridgid material. I'm not sure if a regular buena nitrile or urethane o-ring would hold up to the abuse.

I'm not sure that ring really needs to look good. I think it's made more to keep the bolt/hammer from scratching the inner tubing. If it's a little beat up, probably not a major issue. It doesn't seal air in any way.

If you think you need a new one, I'd call ICD and check. They could probably get you fixed up.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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its not a bad deal for whats there, but the hammer oring should be urethane not black rubber, but it will work in a pinch.
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If you have the white delrin one in the gun now and its working, leave it. if its the urethane and its rough then you mite want to replace it.
if its the black "donut" around the bolt tip, don't worry, it gets dinged up during reassembly but it does not effect the gun.

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Old 03-22-2012, 10:30 AM   #5 (permalink)
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There are far more seals/springs included in the ICD kit foughtwolf posted up. And they are factory parts ... they ship pretty fast as well.
Just picked up two kits form ICD recently, took about a week and a half from paymnet to my mailbox ... in Canada.
Nothing beats factory parts for this marker when you can find them, ICD may be out of the paintball biz but they are still in business and still offer some repair parts.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thats a freestyle kit. Its not going to have anything that fits your cat unless its by total coincidence.

I suggest ordering this kit:
FreeStyle 2004 O-Ring Kit
Over any others, the valve seal it other kits are of a hard plastic and dont seal very well at all.
Actually...I noticed the link said freestyle too....If you actually follow it though it takes me to the exact same webpage you listed

The reason I was thinking about replacing it was because This article here:
ICD 'Cat Tweaks: Trigger Work and Bolt Polishing
mentions that The hard black plastic ring should be spotless for perfect performance. If it doesn't really effect performance much though, then I won't worry about it.
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the out side of the black "donut" has to hop the valve pin when re-installing the bolt. it gets a mark every time. mine has little dings all around it, it does not affect performance.
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the out side of the black "donut" has to hop the valve pin when re-installing the bolt. it gets a mark every time. mine has little dings all around it, it does not affect performance.
I have gone so far as to put an o-ring on the donut, trying to reduce the blow-back from the bolt side (too much recock action). It didn't seem to make any difference, and I found the problem in a worn poppet guide hole.
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