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Old 11-08-2012, 04:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have tried both. How long am I supposed to hold it down for?
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That, I do not know. IIRC mine vented and then cycled.
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With the marker aired up, can you pull the bolt back? If not, then the pilot in the solenoid is stuck. If you can, then the solenoid isn't getting air either and the supply problem is upstream. I would take the LPR apart if that were the case and make sure than nothing is stuck and the rings/seals have lube.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yes, when it is aired up I can pull the bolt back. However, I can turn the lpr up to where it causes (i assume) the solenoid to leak. Wouldn't that mean the there is pressure getting to the solenoid somehow?
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has to be the noid. you shouldn't be able to pull the bolt back while aired up. also, while you're there, examine the hoses, and make sure that they aren't collapsed.

it isn't hard to take apart, but when you do and make sure you pay attention to where the parts go. on the cylinder with the orings, use a light lube(superlube is a good suggestion, stay away from the Dow products). you want a sheen, not shiny. anything more than that, it will be too much for the noid to work properly.

and lets see where we are from that.
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use a light lube(superlube is a good suggestion, stay away from the Dow products). you want a sheen, not shiny. anything more than that, it will be too much for the noid to work properly.

and lets see where we are from that.
I have a timmy noid that doesn't like the standard superlube. The air tool oil superlube without teflon works though. The pilot hangs with the thicker oil. That timmy noid looks like an original 2k5 though, well worn.

So, yeah, real light on the lube.

Also, pay attention to the torque on those tiny screws.
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I took the solenoid apart. Cleaned all the old caked on grease and re-lubed it. Put it back together and aired it back up. Nothing seems to have changed. It still clicks when I pull the trigger, still leaks when the lpr is too high. The bolt still doesn't cock upon airing up. Any more thoughts? Or do I just have a poltergeist living in my promaster?
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the only things i can think of that could result of non firing is 1) the dwell is set way too low, 2) the hoses from the noid are flipped.

so, pics of the board and pics of the noid.
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If it's not putting pressure in either direction, you are not getting air through the noid. Check to make sure that you are getting air to the noid by pulling the hose off the rear of the front block and airing it up. As you turn your LPR up, that will tell you if you are getting air to the noid. If you are, proceed to check the hose order and if not, rebuild the LPr.
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Can you take pictures of the body of the solenoid, the two sides where the barbs are. It sounds like air is getting in, but none is coming out. I wonder if the section of the noid where the barbs are is rotated off 180*. Might not be possible with that one, but if you post up, I will look at mine.
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