Modded Fox - Page 3

ironnerd88 · 11-25-2007, 04:15 PM

Hey,
To see what Classic foxes look like as compared to 98's go HERE

Yeah, it's a darn nice gun. Trigger feels just like an M-16's. Something based on a Fax would make an awesome M-16, AK-47, or Thompson scenario gun. this is beyond my scope, but quite do-able.

Can ya tell I love my Fox?

pump · 11-25-2007, 04:34 PM

so the only part removed that near the reg....was that a shut off?

Litespeed · 11-27-2007, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJR

Someone was asking Rainman about making a pneu-Fox, and he said it can't be done because of the operation (think it had something to do with the fact that it has no on/off...). Probably could be heavily modified to use pneumatics, though...

I want a fox...

That was me, we tossed it around but it will not be a drop in like the Mags due to the on/off operation.

Check here...Another Pneu mag

But Rainman did do this......I know....GASP....

ironnerd88 · 11-28-2007, 08:54 PM

I agree. It would be very different than a Mag. The two guns only work "Mostly" the same. The triggers are very different. The Mag trigger mech actually shuts off air flow to the bolt where the Fox simply releases the piston/bolt. The Pnue-mech would have to trip the sear only on the fox. Seems simple [laughter] but thats a pretty crowded part of the gun. Still, it would be cool to see how fast a non-electric Fox could go.

PUMP - on the schematic parts 26, 27, and 28 shut off air flow to the bolt.

pump · 11-28-2007, 10:15 PM

a pneumag is really fast....even with the mags bottle necks it can still hit 20 bps

i think a fox might be faster due to design...but the reg might be slow if its similar to early b2ks

Litespeed · 11-28-2007, 10:24 PM

You would have to devise a way to control the sear tripper, not just "trip" it. Otherwise it would go full auto!

Not enough room, so one would need to devise a actuator to activate the sear and then return it to the original position.

ironnerd88 · 11-29-2007, 04:11 PM

I was thinking the trigger would be modded from a single piece to two pieces, a lower part (the bit you squeeze) to actuate the valve, and the upper part that actually trips the seer. The gun would not know it was doing anything differently, as seer function would remain the same. The only difference would be how the trigger works.

Above is a standard Fox trigger mech. The lower series is the pneumatic trigger. Trigger on a fox is basically the same as a Spyder (et al)

11-25-2007, 04:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
ironnerd88 Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 155	Hey, To see what Classic foxes look like as compared to 98's go HERE Yeah, it's a darn nice gun. Trigger feels just like an M-16's. Something based on a Fax would make an awesome M-16, AK-47, or Thompson scenario gun. this is beyond my scope, but quite do-able. Can ya tell I love my Fox? __________________ FEEDBACK “Six men came to kill me one time. The best of 'em carried this. It's a Callahan full-bore autolock, customized trigger, double cartridge, thourough-gage. This is my very favorite gun.” - Jayne Cobb

11-25-2007, 04:34 PM	#22 (permalink)
pump Seasoned Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: under Kapiolani on ramp Posts: 702	so the only part removed that near the reg....was that a shut off? __________________ Hawaiipb.com Autotriggers For Sale

11-28-2007, 08:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
ironnerd88 Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 155	I agree. It would be very different than a Mag. The two guns only work "Mostly" the same. The triggers are very different. The Mag trigger mech actually shuts off air flow to the bolt where the Fox simply releases the piston/bolt. The Pnue-mech would have to trip the sear only on the fox. Seems simple [laughter] but thats a pretty crowded part of the gun. Still, it would be cool to see how fast a non-electric Fox could go. PUMP - on the schematic parts 26, 27, and 28 shut off air flow to the bolt. __________________ FEEDBACK “Six men came to kill me one time. The best of 'em carried this. It's a Callahan full-bore autolock, customized trigger, double cartridge, thourough-gage. This is my very favorite gun.” - Jayne Cobb Last edited by ironnerd88; 11-28-2007 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Stuff

11-28-2007, 10:15 PM	#25 (permalink)
pump Seasoned Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: under Kapiolani on ramp Posts: 702	a pneumag is really fast....even with the mags bottle necks it can still hit 20 bps i think a fox might be faster due to design...but the reg might be slow if its similar to early b2ks __________________ Hawaiipb.com Autotriggers For Sale

11-28-2007, 10:24 PM	#26 (permalink)
Litespeed Active Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tullahoma, TN Posts: 294	You would have to devise a way to control the sear tripper, not just "trip" it. Otherwise it would go full auto! Not enough room, so one would need to devise a actuator to activate the sear and then return it to the original position. __________________ Litespeed's Feedback

11-29-2007, 04:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
ironnerd88 Active Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 155	I was thinking the trigger would be modded from a single piece to two pieces, a lower part (the bit you squeeze) to actuate the valve, and the upper part that actually trips the seer. The gun would not know it was doing anything differently, as seer function would remain the same. The only difference would be how the trigger works. Above is a standard Fox trigger mech. The lower series is the pneumatic trigger. Trigger on a fox is basically the same as a Spyder (et al) __________________ FEEDBACK “Six men came to kill me one time. The best of 'em carried this. It's a Callahan full-bore autolock, customized trigger, double cartridge, thourough-gage. This is my very favorite gun.” - Jayne Cobb Last edited by ironnerd88; 11-30-2007 at 12:50 PM. Reason: Add'l image

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