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Old 06-26-2011, 06:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What cup seal to replace a Hammer Cup Seal?

What type of cup seal can be used to replace a Hammer Cup Seal? I am assuming it is a nelson cup seal - but I have been out of this market so long that I don't know.

I guess what I mean to say is - what is available for order that can be used. (I am asking for a friend).


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Old 06-28-2011, 04:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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i was just at the store when a kid with the same problem went in. tech said spyder seal.

which is think is pretty much the same as nelson ones depending on the threading for that particular clone, right?
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Old 06-29-2011, 02:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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...I just had a Hammer here the other week. Meant to compare it's valve to my Phantom...but was too lazy to tear the Phantom down...
I'll see if I can get the Hammer back over...damn kid who owns it is a flake though.

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Old 07-04-2011, 02:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The cup seal in mine is definitely NOT the same as a standard spyder. The edge that seals against the valve nut tapers a bit.
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
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the hammer seals are rounded and sit down in the valve seat, spyders are flat and sit on top of their valve seat. they are made of the same material.
I have put flat nelson style cup seals on Hammers, but you need to polish the very top of the valve seat or they can leak.
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This one : P

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Old 08-16-2011, 06:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Be careful you have to watch out. Depending on which model hammer it is it can vary. I have one that came with the cup seal linked above, I think it may have been the foreign marketed hammer. Others however just use standard nelson cup seals. If you know what model hammer you have I should be able to check for you.
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Here's a picture of the cup seal on my Hammer P...


Here's a picture of my Hammer P using a standard spyder cup seal...


Not the same, but if it seals it works.
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Old 08-16-2011, 07:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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some good information in this thread. I wish that cup seals and cocker threaded barrels were universal across all markers. Life would be so much easier....
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Here is a pic of the differences between the two, the cup seal on the left is for a Hammer (beveled edge) and the cup seal on the right is a standard Spyder cup seal (non beveled edge)....
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