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Old 12-19-2007, 03:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Railgun.. check this out..



3# Stock Vertical Adapter
4# 32degrees Vertical Adapter
5# Bob Long Vertical Adapter
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Railgun.. check this out..

http://www.ottersccustoms.com/images/lp-va.jpg

3# Stock Vertical Adapter
4# 32degrees Vertical Adapter
5# Bob Long Vertical Adapter

#6- None of the above...

What I'm suggesting is a plug that looks like just the body plug right end ONLY of 3, 4 or 5 and that will directly let you attach the vertical adapter from a regular size autococker so that it points forward. This would produce a tighter assembly and it should be stronger since it's not depending on that little stub of the 1/8 NPT.

Let me see if I can photoshop something up or just sort of place the stuff in place to show you and get a picture tonight.

The other option that I want to try is just run if from a 3.5 oz mounted bottom line style and then play with it tank forward and tank back to see which I like best. And then run a 48 round hopper up top.
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!!!!!!!

With that we wouldn't have to worry at all about piping.

that adapter goes right into the changer.

thats exactly what I would want to do, I mean exactly.
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Yep, it would pretty much look just like what you have there from what I can tell. Who did the slide on magazine mod on that? Is that the Victor you're looking to mod?
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Got some pics tonight to show you what I mean just in case it's not clear.

First shows the parts next to a body. Autococker vertical adapter and the CCI changer.

Second is showing the setup with a small gap that would be filled with the adapter metal The autococker VA is quite fat. I think I'd likely groove it so it sits up a little more centered. But it would still need SOME offset.

Third is the other option using a mini cocker VA. This would just screw into a plug block that is drilled and tapped for 1/8NPT. This adapter you see is stainless. It's old stock 32*. I believe Palmer's sells these still in stainless. This version would be dead nuts simple to do but it would require a new locking screw or two be drilled and tapped up higher since the bottom mounted one just in front of the trigger would poke into the gas passage. But perhaps some loctite would seal it.

Fourth is some options to cut down and use for the ASA adapter and screw to the plug. This cut down bit would replace the autococker VA and the thinner walled ones would not require any major mods. They would still need to be offset very slightly but it wouldn't be much at all. About 1/16 inch.
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Old 12-20-2007, 05:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Now those (pics 1 and 2) are an idea I hadn't thought of at all...

You have set the mental gears working ... changer body as the "rail" for the pump ( only drooled over PGP pictures for ~1yr and never thought of that )

Should work... no prob. (Except wife objecting to time spent on working it out And I've got to make the changer)

Thx guys!! I may have passed a bottle neck in my project thanks to you!!

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Yep, it would pretty much look just like what you have there from what I can tell. Who did the slide on magazine mod on that? Is that the Victor you're looking to mod?
no. this is an otter customs mod, Nor is that the same type of spyder.

If we got that adapter we wouldn't have to do any modding.
Its a straight vertical adapter from a spyder to tank threads.

In your 4 options which one would yo most likely recommend doing?

EDIT: what is a plug block? is it just a milled piece that you would put into the gun and then into the mini cocker va?

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as to the pic that I posted here is what he has to say....


"All are stock items except the VA. It is a modified design that Phil Fink (S-74 from the Kingman forum) made for me. It also utilizes the Polecat Straight feed with a slight modification to hold a removeable magazine that is taken from a PT Extreme. It is quickly removeable so that you can carry several pre-loaded magazines"


cool huh?
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....EDIT: what is a plug block? is it just a milled piece that you would put into the gun and then into the mini cocker va?
Exactly. The other options would need much the same thing but just suited to the option chosen.

I was looking at the bottle line adpaters again and I'm now thinking that they are too thin. The side hole is drilled through quite close to the inner opening and by the time I machine it down and try to make an Oring groove there'd be nothing at all left. Same with trying to mill down a typical spyder vertical adapter I'm afraid. So it's either custom all the way or use the Piranha vertical adapter you see on the body in picture 4 or mill out a cove along the top mating point of an autococker VA.

Another source for a block that has the ASA threading in it may be some of the bottom line on-off ASA's. I'll have to look at the ones I've got.
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