EM-1 Reg - BKO ASA/PPS Direct Stab?

Mayvik · 01-29-2008, 11:49 PM

I picked up an EM-1 since I'm somewhat of a Spyder fan and it's definitely a unique part of Kingman's marker past. After doing a little research, it seems that the factory regulator/ASA mounted below the grip is somewhat of a POS. Of course, being a Spyder, none of the connections are standardized, so the front grip isn't attached with normal ASA threading, but something smaller. It -looks- like 1/8" NPT but I'm not positive. Apparently back when EM-1s were semi popular, people took off the Spyder foregrip and replaced it with a BKO/B2K ASA adapter, which then allowed them to slap whatever reg they wanted on. After some googling it seems that B2K parts are not exactly easy to come by anymore.

I had the brilliant idea that maybe I could just throw a female Stab on the bottomline instead of the Kingman reg (PPS goodness is always a plus, and I figured a dust nickel would match the cast-chrome looks of the EM-1 nicely) and just keep the foregrip adapter, but when I went to the PPS website I noticed they make a "Direct" Stabilizer with 1/8" threading on the output as well. Anyone know if I can just screw a direct Stab into the input port on the EM-1 body, and plumb up an On-Off ASA to the bottomline?

Mayvik · 01-30-2008, 05:48 PM

My Google-Fu prevails. Stumbled on an old version of a PPS catalog, turns out they actually do front block upgrades for EM-1s where they'll take out the secondary reg and replace it with a Rock, and can also add a V/A to run a primary reg in the process. I called up and Lori confirmed they could still do them. Palmer's saves the day again!

Railgun · 01-30-2008, 10:07 PM

So much for the budget.....

Sounds like you'll have a personal favourite when it's done.

Mayvik · 01-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Yeah, no kidding...especially for a $100 gun. Gonna be >$250 for the Palmerizing, plus it needs a feedneck, bottomline on/off ASA, new bolt, and probably a new detent (magnetic or at least rebuildable).

The sad thing is, it's one of the blue/chrome ones and I'm a black on black sorta guy...so this may end up becoming a "girlfriend gun". Either that or another bunch of money getting it all ano'ed.

Edit: So I added up everything, and it's like $700 with the Palmer upgrade, a Stab, Rock a PPS barrel, detent/asa/feedneck/bolt. Oooouch...but certainly unique!

cockerpunk · 01-31-2008, 12:40 PM

men shoot silver guns

sounds hot. post pics of it when its done, its been a dang long time since i saw an EM1

Mayvik · 01-31-2008, 01:39 PM

Yes, but NINJAS shoot black guns!

hmudd13 · 02-03-2008, 03:38 AM

IIRC, Bushmasters have the same regs fittings.

I have one on mine.

And this is what it came off of.

Mayvik · 02-04-2008, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmudd13

IIRC, Bushmasters have the same regs fittings.

I have one on mine.

They do..but I haven't been able to locate any spots selling Bushy parts anymore. Probably just going to go with the PPS upgrade in a couple months when I get some more $$ saved up.

Stroker_Turbo · 02-04-2008, 04:26 PM

check in the sale section here....>>>>> http://www.icd-owners.com/html/You will have to register though.
Hope that helps

01-29-2008, 11:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mayvik MCB Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,616	EM-1 Reg - BKO ASA/PPS Direct Stab? I picked up an EM-1 since I'm somewhat of a Spyder fan and it's definitely a unique part of Kingman's marker past. After doing a little research, it seems that the factory regulator/ASA mounted below the grip is somewhat of a POS. Of course, being a Spyder, none of the connections are standardized, so the front grip isn't attached with normal ASA threading, but something smaller. It -looks- like 1/8" NPT but I'm not positive. Apparently back when EM-1s were semi popular, people took off the Spyder foregrip and replaced it with a BKO/B2K ASA adapter, which then allowed them to slap whatever reg they wanted on. After some googling it seems that B2K parts are not exactly easy to come by anymore. I had the brilliant idea that maybe I could just throw a female Stab on the bottomline instead of the Kingman reg (PPS goodness is always a plus, and I figured a dust nickel would match the cast-chrome looks of the EM-1 nicely) and just keep the foregrip adapter, but when I went to the PPS website I noticed they make a "Direct" Stabilizer with 1/8" threading on the output as well. Anyone know if I can just screw a direct Stab into the input port on the EM-1 body, and plumb up an On-Off ASA to the bottomline?

01-30-2008, 10:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Railgun MCB Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,111	So much for the budget..... Sounds like you'll have a personal favourite when it's done. __________________

01-31-2008, 12:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mayvik MCB Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,616	Yeah, no kidding...especially for a $100 gun. Gonna be >$250 for the Palmerizing, plus it needs a feedneck, bottomline on/off ASA, new bolt, and probably a new detent (magnetic or at least rebuildable). The sad thing is, it's one of the blue/chrome ones and I'm a black on black sorta guy...so this may end up becoming a "girlfriend gun". Either that or another bunch of money getting it all ano'ed. Edit: So I added up everything, and it's like $700 with the Palmer upgrade, a Stab, Rock a PPS barrel, detent/asa/feedneck/bolt. Oooouch...but certainly unique! Last edited by Mayvik; 01-31-2008 at 04:11 PM. Reason: NEW INFO!

01-31-2008, 12:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
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02-03-2008, 03:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
hmudd13 Resident Marker Monger Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 672	IIRC, Bushmasters have the same regs fittings. I have one on mine. And this is what it came off of. __________________ My wife keeps asking me why I need more markers?..........why does she do that? NO'MAAM #29 My Markers MCB Feedback AO Feedback Quoting WOLLFFY on AO; I don't recall mentioning trades, especially not for smart Farts. Thanks though.

01-30-2008, 05:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mayvik MCB Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,616	My Google-Fu prevails. Stumbled on an old version of a PPS catalog, turns out they actually do front block upgrades for EM-1s where they'll take out the secondary reg and replace it with a Rock, and can also add a V/A to run a primary reg in the process. I called up and Lori confirmed they could still do them. Palmer's saves the day again!

01-31-2008, 01:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mayvik MCB Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,616	Yes, but NINJAS shoot black guns!

02-04-2008, 04:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
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