VForce Grill Review

InBlack · 12-07-2009, 01:25 AM

Overview
The VForce Grill is a high-end paintball mask equivalent to the JT Proflex and the Dye I4 masks. You can pick from an assortment of colours including black, white, blue, red and green. The Grill comes with a standard single-pane anti-fog lens, a mask visor to decrease glare and direct sunlight, a chin strap to help keep the mask secure and some soft ear attachments which help to absorb impact on the ears and make the mask more comfortable for the user.

Specifications
The VForce Grill is a full-face paintball mask which uses sunglass-inspired spherical style lenses to increase your peripheral vision and help you see things you might not in other masks. The single-pane lens is anti-fog treated, this means that there are not two lenses attached together, possibly preventing the amount of problems with dual-pane lenses, such as the two panes separating from each other.

The styling is a very "hardcore" look, and allows for a low-profile and a very comfortable fit. The sizing will fit almost any user's face, this mask is not too big and not too small, allowing for any face shape or size.

The mask incorporates some of the most advanced technology in masks today including a quick-change lens and a quick-change "clickdry" foam system, both allow the user to remove these parts of the mask in less than 30 seconds.

Materials
The mask is made up of two different materials. The upper part of the mask, surrounding the lenses is a hard plastic, this is not flexible whatsoever. The lower part of the mask, protecting your mouth, ears and jaw is a flexible rubber to prevent mask hits and increase bounces. Both materials do not feel cheap or low quality in any way. The rubber is flexible enough to help with bounces but not enough to create a hazard, so your face will always be protected.

Pros
The quick-change system with both the lenses and foam allow for a fantastic user experience. It is awesome, being able to swap out ruined or fogged lenses for a new lens or even swapping out the foam for a fresh, dry foam. Some other masks may include these features but the ability to remove them as quickly as you can with the Grill is unmatched so far.

The single-pane anti-fog lens is nice, knowing you do not have to worry about the dual-pane lenses separating from each other and the anti-fog system works well and will help keep your vision clear through mostly any type of play. Although, no paintball mask is totally anti-fog, under the most rugged, hot and moist circumstances the lenses will begin to fog but this is no different than any other mask.

The styling of the mask allows for a amazingly comfortable user experience and there are plenty of air holes to help you to breath more air when getting rough. The looks are just amazing, creating a huge amount of intimidation for the opposing team.

Cons
There is a reason why some companies have chosen not to adapt the single-pane lenses. Cleaning the inside of the lens is a pain due to the fact that the anti-fog system is a soft coating on the inside of the lens that never actually dries. When cleaning you can expect your lenses to leave streaks, this can only be prevented by wiping the entire lens with warm water and leaving to air-dry, which obviously isn't a choice in some paintball games.

The styling of the mask allows for a fantastic look, but decreases the middle of the forehead protection. Everyone has heard stories of people being shot right where the mask "dips" down and leaves an unprotected spot on the user's forehead. This is a very small issue, I personally have never been shot in the forehead.

For all the features of this mask you can expect to pay a fairly high price. For some, this is an issue, but this is a high-end mask and most of them are priced in the same area.

Final Verdict
Overall, the VForce Grill paintball mask is a fantastic product. It is amazingly comfortable and will fit most anyone's head without an issue. The small problems with the single-pane lens and low forehead protection are not enough to bother mostly anyone. The high price may turn off some buyers, but a mask of this caliber cannot be purchased without spending a little more cash.

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DanDaMan · 12-07-2009, 02:01 AM

These are currently selling for $70, compared to the current $100-$125 Dye i4. I own the Grill mask, and quite honestly, it was the best decision in my 5 years of play.

InBlack · 12-07-2009, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanDaMan

These are currently selling for $70, compared to the current $100-$125 Dye i4. I own the Grill mask, and quite honestly, it was the best decision in my 5 years of play.

I guess it's best to note that this review is done in Canada, where the Grill mask is around $115. I personally don't think it's expensive, but for some people it could be.

Bonesjackson · 12-07-2009, 04:00 AM

I picked up a pair of these on recommendation. After over half a year of use, I have concluded they are not for me. Allow me to quickly list my own pros and cons.

Pros
-Easy lens changing
-Stylish

Cons
-Significantly less comfortable than my JT Flex 7
-Lens out layer already peeling after ~6 months. Will need to replace.
-Visor o-rings (seriously I hate these things with a passion)
-Chin strap connector makes audible clink sound even through I removed the chin strap itself.
-Single pane fails for anti-fog

Overall 5/10

edit- Reading your review some more, who is actually intimidated by the appearance of a player's mask? Honestly, now.

VendettaPaintball · 12-07-2009, 08:39 AM

I actually got mine for $2.00 at Nppl Boston in 07... used them for around a year... they are my #2 fav. mask.

Dye I3Pros are my #1, grillz aren't far behind though.

CJOttawa · 12-07-2009, 08:43 AM

"Street price" for a Grill in Canada is ~$80.
Try "BuyPBL" or ask other stores to match their price.

I actually find the Grill the most comfortable mask I've worn.

Caveats:

if you take a paintball below the nose, it feels like getting slapped across the face
single-pane fogging issues if you're a fatty like me who sweats a lot

You might try using SCUBA mask-anti-fog. "Aqua Seal Sea Drops" would be my suggestion as they review the best.

Mar · 12-07-2009, 10:25 AM

BNIB - First game, fog.

sigh...

Great review btw. Nice pics.

FiXeL · 12-07-2009, 01:00 PM

I've sold mine after a few months due to the fogging issue... Great mask in any other aspect, but fogs up way faster than the older V-force masks. I have both a shield and a profiler, and those things only fog up on me when it rains. As of late i also have a Dye i4 mask, and i did not have any fogging issues with it in the rain. But it's a fairly small mask, with little forehead protection. Also had the JT Flex8, but that didnt feel right... now i'm thinking of trying the proflex.

tencent · 12-07-2009, 01:37 PM

My only gripe with the grills is if you have a giant dome like me it doesn't offer very good face protection.. my entire jaw line hangs out the bottom of the mask and when I yell I stand a good chance of taking one to the lower lip. However if you have a small head, they seem to fit great.

As for fogging, take off the visor. They fog really easy with the Visor on due to poor circulation.

mxmtl · 12-07-2009, 02:37 PM

Nice review! I've owned one before. If the foam did a better job at keeping the sweat out of my eyes in the summer, I would have kept it.

12-07-2009, 01:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
InBlack Modern Intel Guy Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Caledonia, Ontario	VForce Grill Review Overview The VForce Grill is a high-end paintball mask equivalent to the JT Proflex and the Dye I4 masks. You can pick from an assortment of colours including black, white, blue, red and green. The Grill comes with a standard single-pane anti-fog lens, a mask visor to decrease glare and direct sunlight, a chin strap to help keep the mask secure and some soft ear attachments which help to absorb impact on the ears and make the mask more comfortable for the user. Specifications The VForce Grill is a full-face paintball mask which uses sunglass-inspired spherical style lenses to increase your peripheral vision and help you see things you might not in other masks. The single-pane lens is anti-fog treated, this means that there are not two lenses attached together, possibly preventing the amount of problems with dual-pane lenses, such as the two panes separating from each other. The styling is a very "hardcore" look, and allows for a low-profile and a very comfortable fit. The sizing will fit almost any user's face, this mask is not too big and not too small, allowing for any face shape or size. The mask incorporates some of the most advanced technology in masks today including a quick-change lens and a quick-change "clickdry" foam system, both allow the user to remove these parts of the mask in less than 30 seconds. Materials The mask is made up of two different materials. The upper part of the mask, surrounding the lenses is a hard plastic, this is not flexible whatsoever. The lower part of the mask, protecting your mouth, ears and jaw is a flexible rubber to prevent mask hits and increase bounces. Both materials do not feel cheap or low quality in any way. The rubber is flexible enough to help with bounces but not enough to create a hazard, so your face will always be protected. Pros The quick-change system with both the lenses and foam allow for a fantastic user experience. It is awesome, being able to swap out ruined or fogged lenses for a new lens or even swapping out the foam for a fresh, dry foam. Some other masks may include these features but the ability to remove them as quickly as you can with the Grill is unmatched so far. The single-pane anti-fog lens is nice, knowing you do not have to worry about the dual-pane lenses separating from each other and the anti-fog system works well and will help keep your vision clear through mostly any type of play. Although, no paintball mask is totally anti-fog, under the most rugged, hot and moist circumstances the lenses will begin to fog but this is no different than any other mask. The styling of the mask allows for a amazingly comfortable user experience and there are plenty of air holes to help you to breath more air when getting rough. The looks are just amazing, creating a huge amount of intimidation for the opposing team. Cons There is a reason why some companies have chosen not to adapt the single-pane lenses. Cleaning the inside of the lens is a pain due to the fact that the anti-fog system is a soft coating on the inside of the lens that never actually dries. When cleaning you can expect your lenses to leave streaks, this can only be prevented by wiping the entire lens with warm water and leaving to air-dry, which obviously isn't a choice in some paintball games. The styling of the mask allows for a fantastic look, but decreases the middle of the forehead protection. Everyone has heard stories of people being shot right where the mask "dips" down and leaves an unprotected spot on the user's forehead. This is a very small issue, I personally have never been shot in the forehead. For all the features of this mask you can expect to pay a fairly high price. For some, this is an issue, but this is a high-end mask and most of them are priced in the same area. Final Verdict Overall, the VForce Grill paintball mask is a fantastic product. It is amazingly comfortable and will fit most anyone's head without an issue. The small problems with the single-pane lens and low forehead protection are not enough to bother mostly anyone. The high price may turn off some buyers, but a mask of this caliber cannot be purchased without spending a little more cash. We also have tons more written and video reviews available at Modern Intel \| __________________

12-07-2009, 01:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
FiXeL Autotriggerhappy. :) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Leeuwarden, The Netherlands	I've sold mine after a few months due to the fogging issue... Great mask in any other aspect, but fogs up way faster than the older V-force masks. I have both a shield and a profiler, and those things only fog up on me when it rains. As of late i also have a Dye i4 mask, and i did not have any fogging issues with it in the rain. But it's a fairly small mask, with little forehead protection. Also had the JT Flex8, but that didnt feel right... now i'm thinking of trying the proflex. __________________ Yes! I love being in battle! I love the moment when my marker stops being a machine and becomes part of me! My blood boils and my mind goes all white! It's an incredible high! There's no time to think, only action!

12-07-2009, 01:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
tencent Harb made me do it Join Date: Nov 2008	My only gripe with the grills is if you have a giant dome like me it doesn't offer very good face protection.. my entire jaw line hangs out the bottom of the mask and when I yell I stand a good chance of taking one to the lower lip. However if you have a small head, they seem to fit great. As for fogging, take off the visor. They fog really easy with the Visor on due to poor circulation. __________________ Toxic Bakery

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12-07-2009, 04:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bonesjackson Legendary Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: California	I picked up a pair of these on recommendation. After over half a year of use, I have concluded they are not for me. Allow me to quickly list my own pros and cons. Pros -Easy lens changing -Stylish Cons -Significantly less comfortable than my JT Flex 7 -Lens out layer already peeling after ~6 months. Will need to replace. -Visor o-rings (seriously I hate these things with a passion) -Chin strap connector makes audible clink sound even through I removed the chin strap itself. -Single pane fails for anti-fog Overall 5/10 edit- Reading your review some more, who is actually intimidated by the appearance of a player's mask? Honestly, now.

12-07-2009, 08:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
VendettaPaintball Active Member Join Date: Apr 2009	I actually got mine for $2.00 at Nppl Boston in 07... used them for around a year... they are my #2 fav. mask. Dye I3Pros are my #1, grillz aren't far behind though.

12-07-2009, 02:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
mxmtl MCB Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Diego, CA	Nice review! I've owned one before. If the foam did a better job at keeping the sweat out of my eyes in the summer, I would have kept it.