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[CJOttawa]

Brass Freak compatible inserts

One line review: BUY THIS.

If you want details, read on.

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I own a DD68 Redux which requires Freak inserts. In fact, the Freak insert is most of the barrel length, save about 1-inch at the tip, 2-inches if you have the extended barrel.

Last night, I played a number of indoor games with the Redux and was using Diablo Formula 13 paint which tended to roll out of a 0.682 Stainless Steel Freak insert.

Paint was yellow fill, bright metallic yellow/pink two-tone shell which flew like tracers.

I put Tymcneer's 0.675 brass insert in the gun and re-chrono'd: 298fps.
I'd previously chronoed ~275fps with a 0.682 insert.

I unscrewed the TPC to its forward limit to get the speed under 270fps. That's the biggest change I've ever had to make to set velocity.

I had no barrel breaks with the insert, great efficiency and consistency.

HIGHLY recommended.


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Even if you have the full, Smart Parts Stainless Steel insert kit, it only goes down to 0.682.

To get to 0.679, you have to buy a Smart Parts aluminum insert which is far less durable and made to sloppier tolerances than stainless steel or brass.

I want one of Ty's 0.680's now to replace my aluminum 0.679.

People spend a fortune on barrels that become junk when paint sizes change. Why not invest in inserts instead?

[DCB]

Nice... will have to get one or both.

Peace

[Stuffy]

Nice review.

[ironchef97]

Do you have any efficiency increase #s? Also were you using your drilled out TPC?

[splattttttt]

I got them both. A .675, and the .680.

[tymcneer]

Thank you for the review!

If you run into any problems, please PM or call me, and I will make it right.

Ty

[Mayvik]

I ordered one of each as well, they showed up fast and well-packed. They're extremely well made, and the IDs are as described (unlike some other company's inserts...). Had a little problem where the ODs are slightly too tight in my DW barrel, but tymcneer has been great about making it right and I have every confidence that these are the perfect product if you're looking to get some tighter bores on your Freak with brass-y goodness.

[CJOttawa]

Something I forgot to mention: packaging.

When my insert arrived, it was packed extremely well, inside a mailing tube surrounded by thick bubble wrap.

Clearly the package had been abused by the post office but the contents were perfectly protected.

Originally Posted by ironchef97

Do you have any efficiency increase #s? Also were you using your drilled out TPC?

No drilled TPC as they shred paint in the Redux.

Can't provide hard numbers yet... will post updates as I go.

EDIT - it's not the TPC that causes shreaded paint. It's siphoned liquid from the in-grip gas inlet on the Redux. More details about this in another thread: Redux Valve insert - success

The insert works fine with an open-face TPC!

[ironchef97]

Originally Posted by cjottawa

Something I forgot to mention: packaging.

When my insert arrived, it was packed extremely well, inside a mailing tube surrounded by thick bubble wrap.

Clearly the package had been abused by the post office but the contents were perfectly protected.



No drilled TPC as they shred paint in the Redux.

Can't provide hard numbers yet... will post updates as I go.

Interesting, I used my drilled TPC and didn't have a problem on my phantom, but I was only getting around 20-25 shots from it. In fact, I had to use a Red Main spring just to get up to speed, using a stock phantom valve spring and valve. I used Ty's .675 insert as well in a deadlywind 8" barrel. I have also encountered that issue Mayvik, where the insert is a tight fit in deadlywind barrels, nothing that some hockey tape wrapped around my finger for friction couldn't solve.

[ironchef97]

Originally Posted by cjottawa

No drilled TPC as they shred paint in the Redux.

Can't provide hard numbers yet... will post updates as I go.

Also something interesting to note...the Carter bolts have 4 smaller holes, like a venturi face, interesting that that design doesn't break paint?