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Old 05-21-2012, 02:28 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I kind of feel that the point at which the MVP cocks needs to be moved back, and I think changing valve seat material would cut out the farts, but otherwise its a great feeling and shooting gun.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I kind of feel that the point at which the MVP cocks needs to be moved back, and I think changing valve seat material would cut out the farts, but otherwise its a great feeling and shooting gun.
I agree with you Russ. The MVP feels great to use and shoots very well.
BL needs to get some work on that farting. Reminds me of my old CCMs that had the conical delrin valve stem.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I kind of feel that the point at which the MVP cocks needs to be moved back, and I think changing valve seat material would cut out the farts, but otherwise its a great feeling and shooting gun.
I agree 100% if it was moved back just a hair it would be perfect. As it sits it is easy to short stroke it if you have not really used it. However, after using it for a while, i have gotten used to it and don't really have the short stroking issue anymore. Its really only an issue when auto triggering.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Since my post back in March I've picked up an MVP and have been using it constantly for around six months. I've learned a few things about the gun and wanted to contribute to an already comprehensive review.

- This gun is probably the most consistently shooting gun over the chrono that I own. I attribute that not only to the care taken to the internals but also to the entirely closed body design. I play on dusty fields so I really do appreciate this setup.

- Short-stroking with a gravity hopper is rare but can be catastrophic when it does happen. As others noted it is possible to short stroke it. I rarely do it but when it does happen I tend to pinch/break paint between the feedneck and the bolt. Since I only use tournament paint this becomes a gooey mess that can only be cleaned on the sidelines. My solution to this is to simply use a force-fed hopper on this gun. With my Rotor I never ever pinch a ball no matter how fast or sloppy I am with the pump action. I don't like doing it because I love how light the gun is but I can't see any other way around it. I don't want to risk pinching or breaking a ball mid-game no matter how rare it happens with a gravity hopper. It will eventually happen and when it does (for me at least) it is always at the worst possible time.

- I've learned to use a dab of blue Loctite on the grip-frame screws to prevent them from backing out during the normal vibration of play. On most guns it isn't a big deal but for this one you really can't have screws backing out for two big reasons: 1) the gap created between the sear and hammer will mess with your guns timing causing erratic autotriggering or misfiring. 2) the o-ring that seals the macro-less air passage from the regulator to the valve will tear or spit out under pressure if there is a minor gap between trigger frame and the gun body. Both issues are easily avoidable by simply keeping your frame screws secure. As Franklin said, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".

Those are pretty much the only nuggets of insight I can add as the rest has already been marvelously covered.

No gun is ever going to be without its flaws so I just take them along with the sum of its merits and play according to its strengths. That said I do love this gun, quirks and all. It sits along side my T2 and Phantom as my favorite guns to shoot.
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:32 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I recently acquired one and have been using it every weekend with no problems.
The only thing I hear people talk about is the sound signature or 'farting' but to me it plays no role in my opinion. The gun is super light very consistent and super simple,everything is closed and sealed and works perfectly when all screws are tight. The A/T is perfect besides the early cocking position I don't see really anything wrong with this gun and I've shot my buddies T2 and it's nice too but visually not as clean and simple as the MVP. MVP is a little louder then the T2 but super sexy and not a big deal. I love this gun and there's nothing to it, put a tank and a hopper and go Shoot peoples faces off. In closing this is a good thread and very informative and I'll keep watching for more reviews and videos.
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:47 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The only thing I hear people talk about is the sound signature or 'farting' but to me it plays no role in my opinion.
Sound signature is very important, compared to my snipers, the MVP is quite loud and gives away my position, the fact that i am shooting. i have shot many people without being seen or heard with my snipers. i am not sure if the fart/quack is a mismatching of the springs or the seal material. i personally feel it is sprung harder than needed with such a heavy hammer.

BLAST has a replacement bolt and sear that changes the cocking point from 1/2 to 3/4 clearing the breech when sear catches. i just got mine back a couple weeks ago, they were still unable to stop the farting...
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Sound signature is very important, compared to my snipers, the MVP is quite loud and gives away my position, the fact that i am shooting. i have shot many people without being seen or heard with my snipers. i am not sure if the fart/quack is a mismatching of the springs or the seal material. i personally feel it is sprung harder than needed with such a heavy hammer.

BLAST has a replacement bolt and sear that changes the cocking point from 1/2 to 3/4 clearing the breech when sear catches. i just got mine back a couple weeks ago, they were still unable to stop the farting...
I agree it's hard to go stealth with the blap sound that comes out the mouth hole of this Death Machine, but with as straight as this thing shoots it doesn't really matter.
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:40 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Everyone who has used their MVP for a while I has a question Just wondering if after the break in period it got smoother? I never had mine long enough to break it in and it felt like a little resistance everytime I pumped it and that was BNIB straight from bob.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:04 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Quick question? What size is the sight rail? 7/8" weaver (ie standard paintbally rail) or picatinny (mil-sim rail)? Seems like it's begging for an armson or izon sight Wondering if the weaver rail sights would fit.
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Quick question? What size is the sight rail? 7/8" weaver (ie standard paintbally rail) or picatinny (mil-sim rail)? Seems like it's begging for an armson or izon sight Wondering if the weaver rail sights would fit.
It's a 3/8 dovetail IIRC...
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