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Old 03-19-2013, 11:38 PM   #521 (permalink)
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Any info on that would be appreciated. Thanks.



Thanks for the info. I've never owned an Ion or any of those other guns so I wasn't completely sure. I do plan on keeping it mech but my plans are pretty crazy but I don't even know if they will work out until I get the gun.
just got home, crazy long day.

just looked at the enemy, looks like the vasa is built into the body, which means an ion frame wont fit.... (without cuttin off the vasa off the ion frame)
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:42 PM   #522 (permalink)
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ENEMY hole pattern is 4.500" on center

ION hole pattern 4.500" on center

BUT the enemy's vasa is built onto the body, whereas the ion is built onto the frame

also.... the trigger action is a vertical push, soo figuring out a new trigger would be tricky
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:34 AM   #523 (permalink)
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ENEMY hole pattern is 4.500" on center

ION hole pattern 4.500" on center

BUT the enemy's vasa is built onto the body, whereas the ion is built onto the frame

also.... the trigger action is a vertical push, soo figuring out a new trigger would be tricky
All correct, however the top of the GOG frames are milled more open to accomodate the horizontal board, this is the only major difference between the frames you left out so I figured I'd complete the list. An Ion frame would not fit over the horizontal boards without milling, and their trigger wouldn't work with them either.
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Reservoir Dogs- GoG Efficiency Test - YouTube


Not mine. GoG posted it on Facebook. One stock test. One techt l6 bolt test. And one l6 and qev test.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:11 AM   #525 (permalink)
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All correct, however the top of the GOG frames are milled more open to accomodate the horizontal board, this is the only major difference between the frames you left out so I figured I'd complete the list. An Ion frame would not fit over the horizontal boards without milling, and their trigger wouldn't work with them either.
didnt think to check that :P


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Reservoir Dogs- GoG Efficiency Test - YouTube


Not mine. GoG posted it on Facebook. One stock test. One techt l6 bolt test. And one l6 and qev test.
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results for those at work who cant get on youtube ;D
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results for those at work who cant get on youtube ;D
Watching now, but it's 24 minutes.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #527 (permalink)
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Is it that hard to put results in the description? I hate watching 10 minutes of someone shooting at a tree. Tests are with:
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No mention of pod size, but I was skimming the video, probably 140?
Test #1 - Stock Bolt = 4 pods + Virtue (velocity was 285 fps to start)
Test #2 - TectT L7 = 5 1/2 pods + Virtue (velocity jumped to 315 fps, had to be lowered, said to have less kick)
Test #3 - TechT L7 + QEV = 5 3/4 pods + Virtue (back up to 300 fps, had to be lowered)

If the QEV negates the anti-chop bolt, I think I would stick with the L7.

Now, any idea how other bolts compare to TechTs horribly overpriced stuff?
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ENEMY hole pattern is 4.500" on center

ION hole pattern 4.500" on center

BUT the enemy's vasa is built onto the body, whereas the ion is built onto the frame

also.... the trigger action is a vertical push, soo figuring out a new trigger would be tricky
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All correct, however the top of the GOG frames are milled more open to accomodate the horizontal board, this is the only major difference between the frames you left out so I figured I'd complete the list. An Ion frame would not fit over the horizontal boards without milling, and their trigger wouldn't work with them either.

Thanks for the info guys. I was brainstorming and I had a few other questions.

-Are the internal hoses the same diameter and type as autococker pneumatic hoses?

-If they are different does anybody know where they can be purchased from in longer lengths?

-Are there any forseeable problems if those hoses were lengthened out quite a bit?
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:05 AM   #529 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info guys. I was brainstorming and I had a few other questions.

-Are the internal hoses the same diameter and type as autococker pneumatic hoses?

-If they are different does anybody know where they can be purchased from in longer lengths?

-Are there any forseeable problems if those hoses were lengthened out quite a bit?
shouldnt be any issues with longer hose
it looked like cocker hose, but i didnt look that hard or measure it
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Test #1 - Stock Bolt = 4 pods + Virtue (velocity was 285 fps to start)
Test #2 - TectT L7 = 5 1/2 pods + Virtue (velocity jumped to 315 fps, had to be lowered, said to have less kick)
Test #3 - TechT L7 + QEV = 5 3/4 pods + Virtue (back up to 300 fps, had to be lowered)
I heard the following:

Test #1 - Stock Bolt = 4.5 pods + Hopper, about 830 shots
Test #2 - TechT L6 = 5 2/3 pods + Hopper, about 990 shots
Test #3 - TechT L6 + QEV = a little less than 6 pods + Hopper, about 1020 shots

I agree with you conclusion though. Upgrading to the L6 is a big jump in efficiency. The QEV doesn't seem to do much beyond that. You might lose the anti-chop by upgrading to the L6. I think that partially comes from the bolt stem/bolt stop inner o-ring being a tight fit. The L6 might not have the same tightness there. Maybe PR can comment?

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