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[simmy952]

I want to start this review saying that I hope it answers some of the questions that I had when considering the choice between these two markers. I had the opportunity to have both markers here at the same time. So that gave some time to give a little attention to each marker. I have pics with both markers but I will not post the pics of them till the owner of the pyre receives it or give me permission to post them. Both markers are eye appealing in their own aspect. The milling on the S6 is nice and uniform. The S6 is sleek and lightweight. I did own a S5 and the new milling definently adds to the lines and greatly reduces the weight of the marker. Not to take away anything from either one of these markers and the companies behind them.

Pyre:
What more really needs to be said. It is a cherry Pyre from PPS. This marker is GORGEOUS!



Set up was a cherry Pyre with a male stabilizer and bottom line. The color is brown camo. As usual, the finish and fit of the Pyre is excellent as with anything from PPS. The Pyre is a classic in itself. Anyone that has owned brass will tell you this. The Pyre with the .45 grip feels and handles like a Blazer. This Pyre had a male stab and bottomline kit installed. When you pick up the Pyre the first thing you notice is the feel of the marker. It is considerably heavy. The Pyre weighed in at 3 lbs. 1 oz. But, that is not always a bad thing. It feels like a good marker should. Most people do not buy brass for weight saving. The .45 grip is comfortable. I would recommend a stock. It makes a more stable shooting platform especially when using the AT. It is not necessary but it will help stabilize your shooting. The pump stroke is smooth and crisp. It tended to be a little heavy at the end. I might not have noticed it so much if I had not had both markers setting side by side to compare. It could also just need to be broken in. I assume that the stroke will loosen up a bit with some play. That will be up to Party to do on the Pyre. Thanks Mike for letting me shoot your Pyre. The Pyre was quiet as with any PPS marker with a ported brass barrel. I was using Nelson Precision for testing. I did not have a chance to shoot across the chrono and being new and the stab was not broken in, I did not get everything out. Pretty much the standard what you would expect from PPS. I think the most thing with accuracy is that I did not have the stock attached. Most of the inconsistency was from me not the marker. The pump rod was easy to use but I prefer the pump handle itself. The only noticeable thing about the Pyre is that it was a little front heavy. Not a problem for most brass owners. Given the brass barrel, pump handle, and male stabilize, that is where most of the weight is. Really there is nothing bad to be said about the Pyre. It is efficient, drop dead sexy, and fun to use. It will handle a variety of paint, take a beaten, and come back for more.

Now for the S6. It is a CCM S6 in dust black with a Noxx stock added. It was ordered with a .689 barrel sizer. The pic shows a Stiffi barrel. I know that you cannot really compare a Stiffi to a brass barrel in weight. I also use a Armson stealth barrel on the marker. Even the stock barrel on the S6 is a good barrel. You can also order sizers for the barrel to have a sizing barrel kit. You can maybe give a point to the Pyre for a brass barrel as a stock barrel sold with the marker. Although the barrel sold with the S6 is nothing to just chuck away.



Anyway, after picking up the Pyre, the S6 felt like a lightweight. The S6 weighs in at 2 lbs 9 oz. The thing that I really noticed first was the extensive milling done to the S6. I had previously owned a S5, so the difference was ver noticeable. This one came through with the 86* frame. I somewhat prefer the 86* frame for this application. The only thing that I really did not care for was the grips. They feel kind of cheap. The grip frame is narrower, thanks to the milling. It fit better to my hands. I do not have large hands and so the narrower frame fit me well. The fit and finish is also what you would expect from CCM. The pump stroke was smooth and crisp. I also installed the return spring. I also think that the stroke will need to be broken in as with the Pyre. I did not have time to see what the efficiency was on either marker. I will post up later when I can figure out how many shot I can get out of a tank. Same as with the Pyre, that a stock is necessary. Some would just use the tank but I usually run a vest and a remote. Shooting the S6 is just something you need to experience. It is also quiet. The Stiffi barrel helped some but the stock barrel ws not bad. The total combination of a pump marker and the looks of the S6 make for a winning combo. You really cannot go wrong with either marker.

What can I say about either of these two markers. Both are made by good companies. Both are backed by good customer service. The two differences between the markers would be the weight and the cost. I know you can get an entry level Pyre for about the same cost. If you are going to spend the money, you might as well get the goods. A little of the cost in the Pyre that was shown was due to the anno. Just a plain black would have reduced some of the cost. Can I say one or the other, not really. Both shoot exceptionally well. Both are drop dead sexy. At the moment, both markers are holding resale value well. I guess in the end it boiled down to $$$. The cost of the marker. Would I buy a Pyre sometime? YES! Am I dissatisfied with my choice? NO! I guess a lot of the choice really boils down to what feels comfortable to the owner. The S6 felt more comfortable to me. What does it for me may not do it for you. If any one has questions or comments, please feel free to post them up or PM. Thanks for reading.

S6 & Pyre slideshow!

[Party of A-5]

You have permission to post them.
Now get to it.

[Frink]

I found the Pyre pump stroke to be slightly better than the S6, and both markers were at least partially broken in.

But maybe I should let you finish your review before I go commenting on it

[sniper97]

How can you start a review and not finish it!

I just started what appeared to be another GREAT REVIEW....to be continued!

Just finished the review! Very good!

[worrptangl]

Originally Posted by Frink

I found the Pyre pump stroke to be slightly better than the S6, and both markers were at least partially broken in.

But maybe I should let you finish your review before I go commenting on it

I agree my pyre has a better pump stroke.

[simmy952]

Review is done. I will try to add a few things as I finish them up. Pics and slideshow added.

[Party of A-5]

Mmmmmmm, my pyre.

Anyway, very well done on the review. Great pics too, and good thing the two marker are set up very similarly.
From what I hear from other pyre owners the pump stroke does get better once you break it in a little so I have a full 92/4500 and two twelve ounce tanks waiting for it when it arrives.
The brass barrels do then to be a bit heavier but I have them on virtually all my markers anyway. The boost in accuracy is well worth it.
Anyway, i'll post some comments for my own when it arrives.

[HurtCow]

I haven't seen a Pyre set up with a vert Stab, since it already has an internal reg. Any advantages to that?

[Frink]

I put a vert male stab and a bottom line female stab on mine just to see what it would look like. From what I've gathered dual stabs might be justifiable on a CO2 setup, but are overkill on a HPA setup since the HPA bottle itself is already regulated.

[Target]

Originally Posted by Frink

I put a vert male stab and a bottom line female stab on mine just to see what it would look like. From what I've gathered dual stabs might be justifiable on a CO2 setup, but are overkill on a HPA setup since the HPA bottle itself is already regulated.

That would make it triple reg'd ( quad if you're using HPA), wouldn't it?

Glenn's Sig Series Blazer have both male and female Stabilizers.

With more than two regs inline, it may be difficult to keep the input pressure high enough to operate the marker.

Is is a 200psi variance between regs?