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[Harbinger[TG]]

Originally Posted by paintballedbackin88

Was it a mac 1 Annhilator from Tim Macmurry of Macmurry and Sons? I think his shop was also in the Torrance/Hawthorne area.

I had a mac1 Annhilator that I used once at a Big Game in Warzone in Corona, CA back in 89. Someone said I was shooting hot and the ref chrono'd me at 302 or something close and pulled me from the game, and I'd been shooting 280's all morning before that.

I was so mad, plus the thing was so heavy and slow, that I ended up selling it back to Tim for a loss. I used that money to buy my first stock carter comp for $275 I think. The Annhilator was over $300.

P.S. The cool thing about the Annhilator was the 12gm quick change cut out on the lower tube. Tim used a dummy 12gm cartridge tapped with a 90 degree fitting for calif style constant air. It was very simple to switch back to 12gm, but the knurled knob wasnt exactly a quick change. That was another advantage of the carter comp, 12gm quick changes.

If it was an Annhilator it would be from Mac. They come around every now and then. I missed a minty one last year because I was trying to save money.

[breg]

I am just really glad to see someone getting back into the sport. As for this site... you might need a beer in your hand to truly fit in, but hey... them's the breaks.

[Tohri]

Originally Posted by breg

I am just really glad to see someone getting back into the sport. As for this site... you might need a home brew ale, porter or mead in your hand to truly fit in, but hey... them's the breaks.

Fixed it for you.

[Jardine]

Sorry to bump a semi-old thread but some of this brought back memories.

I started playing back in '94 in my mid-teens and quit around '97, as some of the guys I played with moved away and we didn't have access to land to play on anymore (there were no local fields here, as we were the first in my area of MS to really play). Back then, pumps and stock-class guns were still around and used but (mechanical) semi-autos ruled. In particular, the Automag and Autocker dominated the tournament scene. 99.99 percent of tournament players were using one of those two guns, with the Automag holding the edge in sheer number of users. Tom Kaye of Airgun Designs (the guy who designed the Automag) was held in very high esteem, as probably 70 percent of the pros were using the Automag. I never thought that would end but, in reading articles from the past 10 years or so, it sounds like Smart Parts made the real push to electronic guns and patented a lot of the technology and used those patents to marginalize a guy like Tom Kaye. That is a shame because he built a tremendous gun in the Automag.

I read the magazines and followed the pros and the equipment, like a lot of guys. The All Americans and Ironmen were probably the most dominant teams and I remember the 1995 NPPL World Cup being aired on ESPN. That was a big deal, as it was the first time I really got to see tournament paintball, as I had only previously read about in the magazines (like Action Pursuit Games). I was a recreational woodsball player but really enjoyed watching the games from that tournament, as it was exciting and was still a woods-oriented game at that point. I can remember hating it a year or two down the line when the change was made to a more speedball-oriented game, with manmade cover on an open field. I know they did it because it probably made it much easier to film for tv but I detested it.

I was always interested in pumps, though I didn't use one and there were guys in rec games that would use them and snipe. Some of them could do it well and very quietly, as silencers were still around and used in those days, which made the pumps really quiet and tough to find if they were hidden well. From what I understand, that is basically gone now, as silencers are no longer used for legal reasons. I'm guessing you can still snipe with a pump but I would probably be a little easier to be detected.

Anyway, I ended up getting out of the game around '97, as some of my fellow players moved away and we didn't really have enough guys anymore to play. It was a bummer and was something I've missed. I've thought several times over the last 15 years or so about getting back in but have yet to taken the plunge. I've thought about going the pump route if I get back in, though I'm a little unhappy about the inability to use silencers anymore. To me, that was a really big advantage that was taken away from pump players.

Just out of curiosity, with regard to today's games, how are fields handling all of the fast-shooting electronic markers? I can remember back in the mid-90s, the refs at fields would always ask those of us with good semis (Automags and Autocockers) to take it easy on the new players and to limit ourselves to 3 shot bursts (meaning you couldn't unload on a guy with 5-7 shots per second). This was done to protect the guys who were just beginning so that they wouldn't come away with a bad experience and get shot 10+ times when they were eliminated. The field owners knew they needed to protect the new & inexperienced players, which I agreed with. So, I'm curious how the refs protect the new players today with the rate of fire of these guns? It has to be REALLY hard to do.

[Patar]

Where I play the refs radio eachother (out in the woods) and balance teams out. If it's all renters on one side the ref might have to ask some of the guys on the other team to switch over to balance it up, or they'd send a certain number of experienced dudes over and bring 1-2 renters to our side just to give each team a good mix. Usually the experienced guys are nice enough to take it easy. And the renters and new kids learn some tactics by watching and playing with experienced dudes.

When I started, I just tailed the regulars and asked them what they wanted me to do and where I should go. Was doing surprisingly well actually. To this day I don't think I've been shot out in total up to 10 times yet.. I may not get many kills but I'm always glad to suppress and survive as long as I can.

[tagroland]

Welcome back into the beloved sport, paintballedbackin88.

I enjoyed your sharing memories (makes me want to play even MORE now).

Mcarterbrown is the ONLY forum I visit, people here are really helpful (just watch your wallet...they have 'shiny's' for sale) haha

Blessings,
Roland

[paintballedbackin88]

Originally Posted by tagroland

Welcome back into the beloved sport, paintballedbackin88.

I enjoyed your sharing memories (makes me want to play even MORE now).

Mcarterbrown is the ONLY forum I visit, people here are really helpful (just watch your wallet...they have 'shiny's' for sale) haha

Blessings,
Roland

Thank you for the welcome, sir! By the way, did you ever work in socal as a US postal worker back in the late 80's? I used to play with a really cool guy named Roland, who worked as a mailman. He had a best friend nicknamed Lobo and we actually played a few outlaw games with Earon Carter at Leg Lake in Whittier Narrows in southern calif.

We met when I used to work at Adventure game supplies doing nelson based mods like autotriggers and flex honing. I also did the old school soldering direct feeds on pgps back in the day, but I had really ugly solder jobs that needed filing

regards

[russc]

Originally Posted by Jardine

I've thought about going the pump route if I get back in, though I'm a little unhappy about the inability to use silencers anymore. To me, that was a really big advantage that was taken away from pump players.

First of all, you're on the right site! Pump has made a huge resurgence in the last 5-6 years. I'd say more than half of the really skilled players you see around here have a pump, and many play that way the majority of the time.

Secondly...we call them rain covers. It's kind of a don't ask, don't tell thing. Don't go around bragging, and don't sell them commercially.

[thumper]

Originally Posted by Jardine

Just out of curiosity, with regard to today's games, how are fields handling all of the fast-shooting electronic markers? ..

I'm gonna go with [X] Epic Fail. Its rare to find a field that retains any of the wisdom the old field owners had.

[Jardine]

Originally Posted by russc

First of all, you're on the right site! Pump has made a huge resurgence in the last 5-6 years. I'd say more than half of the really skilled players you see around here have a pump, and many play that way the majority of the time.

Secondly...we call them rain covers. It's kind of a don't ask, don't tell thing. Don't go around bragging, and don't sell them commercially.

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/gallery/...m/P2250004.JPG

Yeah, I get the code name part. What I am really curious is whether the fields allow them. I would assume that they would not allow someone to play if they had one on their gun.