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Old 03-03-2013, 09:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:41 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Gas source - I'll be that guy... If the local field offers co2 fills don't bother with HPA your wasting your money

I live in Vermont, we have cold winters and play right through them, I have used Nelson based pumps like the Hammer almost every time I have played for the last 6-7 years. I've followed every attempt to make them better during that time. In my opinion there is no benefit to using HPA over CO2 on a Nelson based pump that makes up for the added expense A 68ci tank will double the weight of the gun and cost over $100 for a light one and not give you any more shots than a $20 9oz CO2 tank. A 13ci will not add the size but will only give you 100-150 shots per fill

The valve design is consistent and designed for High pressure offered by CO2.

You bought a small light gun and you will get more shots out of a CO2 tank than you will and HPA tank of the same size.
Co2 may be better for shot count to size of tank but what about shot consistency? Co2 needs to convert from a liquid state to a gas state in order to be used where as HPA is in a constant Gas state.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:01 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Co2 may be better for shot count to size of tank but what about shot consistency? Co2 needs to convert from a liquid state to a gas state in order to be used where as HPA is in a constant Gas state.
People have been running dropout phantoms for years. My wifes Dropout Duckslide has no consistency issues that have ever concerned us and with that set up you actually have to rock and cock so you need to tip the liquid towards the valve when cocking.

With the Hammer 7, assuming you are running it in the stock configuration you have your tank off the back angled at 15* putting all the liquid in the bottom of the tank far away from the valve unless you are aiming down. The modern CO2 tanks have grooves in the threads of the valve that help prevent the liquid from getting out of the bottle, and you are shooting at a rate of fire that is not going to allow for liquid to get out.

And most I have seen convert to bottom line. This provides even more expansion space.

Saturday was in the low to Mid 30's, I used my Gargoyle on a single partially filled 3.5oz tank all day long with no problems what so ever. Yes I had to adjust the velocity when I first got to the Chrono, no big deal.

My recommendation to the OP is to get a CO2 tank (Most 9oz and smaller never need to be hydrotested so they last a whole lot longer than HPA tanks) and take the money that you would have spent on an HPA tank and start looking for a nice barrel kit to match paint to the bore of the gun.
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Since this thread started with boobs what are we supposed to derail it with?
Stock class = 12grams and a stick feed. End discussion.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:31 AM   #24 (permalink)
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People have been running dropout phantoms for years. My wifes Dropout Duckslide has no consistency issues that have ever concerned us and with that set up you actually have to rock and cock so you need to tip the liquid towards the valve when cocking.

With the Hammer 7, assuming you are running it in the stock configuration you have your tank off the back angled at 15* putting all the liquid in the bottom of the tank far away from the valve unless you are aiming down. The modern CO2 tanks have grooves in the threads of the valve that help prevent the liquid from getting out of the bottle, and you are shooting at a rate of fire that is not going to allow for liquid to get out.

And most I have seen convert to bottom line. This provides even more expansion space.

Saturday was in the low to Mid 30's, I used my Gargoyle on a single partially filled 3.5oz tank all day long with no problems what so ever. Yes I had to adjust the velocity when I first got to the Chrono, no big deal.
You have a very valid point my friend. I may have to rethink my choice in tank choice, luckily I have options.
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Remember, A lot of guys devolumize stock class Nelsons to improve efficiency.

Consistency = Accuracy

A guy using a stock class gun isn't going to (intentional) do anything that hurts the accuracy of that gun.
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barrel bag. have 2, you're bound to lose/loan them out sooner or later.
This is the only thing i can elaborate on: get larger barrel bags/condoms. Tippmann "Wide Mouth," the kind designed to fit over the Flatline, or OCD/justplyn can make large ones, too. Fit perfectly over barrel and pump handle, so it's easier to put em on.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:38 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Everyone forgets to also recommend a CUP! Protect the most important balls that you bring onto the field.

*EDIT* Just noticed Menace also suggested this.
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:48 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I don't wear a cup. Been nearly 10 yrs. Pants w/ baggy crotch, or tri-folded towel/shirt over the junk has done the job.

Now if you mean his H7 should wear a cup, then i don't know what to say about that.
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:51 PM   #30 (permalink)
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If you go hpa. It may be advisable for you to get a higher pressure output than what is standard. If you go ninja id consider the SHP reg. Or a normal regg shimmed up. Just repeat that to the guy at the pb store he should know what you mean
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