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Old 03-09-2013, 05:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You could always find a Valken VMax. They advertise its able to feed 20+ bps, and its nice and light. Plus I believe they're under $80 new.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Invert TOO Brand new, $74, and you're basically getting an upgrade to the old Halo B's. Best deal out there. Next up are the Pinokios, and at the top of the performance/price tree are the Rotors.
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Most consistent force feed loader?

You don't want a halo B or an invert too, they are basically the same, too heavy, can crush paint...way inferior to rotors and prophecies.

Since you are looking to be on a budget, the BEST bang for your buck will be a perfect condition prophecy. You can get one used in really great shape for 60-70 dollars. They blow away old halos. Way lighter, they hold a good 50 more balls..way more consistent, virtually jam free. Way more durable.

My favorite really cheap loader is the Evolution 3..only on guns that are long out the back though, like a tippmann or an autococker. They are really consistent, light weight, and never crush paint. Awesome hoppers. Of course their flaw is their typically weak shell..but just tape it as it cracks and don't worry about it and you will get your 30 bucks out of it :P
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Did the new JT Evlution go anywhere? The XSV branded one.
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It didn't go anywhere. It looks 90 percent the same as the original revolution, except it has one terrible feature, the feed tube is totally encapsulated by the extended body portion of the hopper, which makes it impossible to take advantage of the evo's potential lowness. On crappy autocockers with WGP feednecks, you could use a cut down evo with a CCM no pro and have the hopper sitting right on the body of the gun, it was great. And autocockers were so long out the back end, that the hopper didn't hang off the back like it does on normal guns.

They are also perfect for tippmann 98's and other inline blow backs..

So..yeah I think the new evolution 4 or whatever is good, except that the feed tube can't be cut down, so I hate it for that reason. For most people I bet it is a decent budget option.

I don't think that cheaping out on a hopper is a good idea though. Either go light weight reliable VL200, or get a worthwhile force feed. The other compromise is just a decent revvy.

Also as mentioned, Vlocity's were the best hoppers out there before the prophecy and Rotor hit the world..they are good and light, and functionally fine and dandy. The shells are weak..so that stinks. Vlocity JR with select force board is the best.. the select force means you can disable the constant pulsating and have better battery life.
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I ended up getting a deal from a teammate on a Vlocity Jr and two extra (brand new) shells for 35$. It's got a speedfeed on it, the extra shells have the original lids and he threw in some extra speedfeeds. The shell with the internals has some aftermarket blades, he didn't know much about but he threw in some replacement stock blades as well.

It's it really solid condition, and has the select force board in it. I was ripping it on my DP threshy w/ ramping and it kept up quite well. Even on my old Evil Pimp with uncapped ramping it was feeding without much issue (and that thing shoots faster then u'd expect).

It was a backup, and hardly saw use when he even used it. Now he's using a spire and rotar so I lucked out. Thats why I look for the older models I can always find someone just trying to get rid of one, sometimes with nice extras. I can go and grab 2 cases for my next practice with the $$$ I saved on a hopper, while being able to shoot the same speeds.

It's kind of funny that even on MCB people are acting like decent force feeds have only arrived in the last 3 years. If you took some people at their word you'd wonder how the hell people played speedball before the spire/rotar came out.
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You will spend more money on batteries with a vlocity in 1 season of PSP than you will have spent buying a new rotor.

Spires are bad on batteries too.

I Recommand Empire B2 or Rotor.
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It's kind of funny that even on MCB people are acting like decent force feeds have only arrived in the last 3 years. If you took some people at their word you'd wonder how the hell people played speedball before the spire/rotar came out.
With taped-up Halos.
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It's kind of funny that even on MCB people are acting like decent force feeds have only arrived in the last 3 years. If you took some people at their word you'd wonder how the hell people played speedball before the spire/rotar came out.
No but in a few event, I had Evil stick together due to humility(in GA during rainy summer days) and caused jams(it was going to jam every hopper out there).

I took my rotor apart, dumped all the paint, wiped it down, reassembled it, podded new paint in all within 7 seconds.
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No but in a few event, I had Evil stick together due to humility(in GA during rainy summer days) and caused jams(it was going to jam every hopper out there).

I took my rotor apart, dumped all the paint, wiped it down, reassembled it, podded new paint in all within 7 seconds.

Yea when Dye brought the Rotor on to the market it became the new benchmark for future hoppers to reach for.

I have worked on Halos and hated how hard they were to take apart and clean when they were dirty.
When I broke paint in mine old Halo in the middle of a tournament, it meant that for the rest of the day I wouldn't be shooting straight at all.
First time that happened with my Rotor, I had it apart, clean and back together in 2 minutes.

Now we have hoppers like the Prophecy Z2, Spire, V-Max, and Rotor that all field strip easily.
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