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Old 04-03-2014, 03:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What's the best kind of realistic marker?
I'll have to let someone else answer this one. Milsim is not my kind of game.
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Old 04-03-2014, 04:59 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In answer to your question it depends on what you term realistic. If you mean actually changing magazines and such there are many markers that can take a magazine feed system some come that way from the factory (RAP4 and Tiberius markers) some can be adapted (Tippman 98 or A5 for example). With that said if you've never played I'd so go out and play first you may hate the game and never want to invest in it. Don't drop money until you know you'll stick with it.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Go to the store and handle some stuff... try other people's stuff at the field. Get a feel for what you like. Honestly, what you like now probably isn't going to be what you like after you play few a times. That's why everyone on this site has at least 5-6 guns... well... partly why...

And get whatever mask fits you well. Everyone's head is different.
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:54 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I do not recommend a mag fed gun for your first gun. Your going to want something that you can at least make an attempt at shooting your self out of a corner. I would recomend a setup like this.

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Old 04-03-2014, 10:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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^ Looks good TJ, though I think I would go a bit higher on the mask.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i would call that a good base to start tweaking from there. i used that model of mask for quite a few years before i went to the proflex. that being said you should try some on before you buy.
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Old 04-03-2014, 10:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If you trade the barrel for a Lurker gen 3 (40$) and the mask for a proflex or vforce profiler (60$) you will have a killer set up.

You may not want a milsim gun first. They look cool and feel cool but you suffer everywhere that isn't the woods or easy walk on play. They are heavy, usually hard to tech, sometimes inconsistent, and always behind the "tourny" guns. Additionally, they can be hugely expensive to set up.

If you where to get say, an used Empire Axe, Gog enmy, or even 06-08 ego, you will get better or equivalent performance in a lighter and tighter package. I would even go as far to say that an open class pump will hold an advantage over most magfed guns. You also won't get wrecked on the airball field.

However, you can play however you want.
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I am a milsim/magfed player and I've used a magfed marker for nearly a decade. That said, it's not a great way to start out. You'll be out gunned every time. You will have 20 rounds and the other guy will have 200. Plus it's really expensive. The marker will run you $300+, a package of magazines will be another $50-$100, then you'll need a vest ($50), and mag pouches ($25 each), etc... As you can see, it adds up fast. And it's a small market, so if you ever want to sell it, it'll be a slow process. Also, you'll be a larger target than other players, slower, and your marker will be slower firing and heavier.

It's a great way to play, but not for getting started.
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You may not want a milsim gun first. They look cool and feel cool but you suffer everywhere that isn't the woods or easy walk on play. They are heavy, usually hard to tech, sometimes inconsistent, and always behind the "tourny" guns. Additionally, they can be hugely expensive to set up.

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to the point of heavy and hugely expensive and behind tourny guns. This winter I bought a used Dye DAM. I have yet to really play with it but I can tell you right now its a COMPLETELY different animal. the gun is very very long their will be no snap shooting with it. also the balance point of the gun is much further forward so I find myself feeling like any movements are sluggish because the front of the gun is so heavy, this makes getting on target a bit harder. Also I bought 10 20rd mags so at the absolute best case scenario I can carry 200 rounds onto the field. A typical person with a 3 pod pack can carry 600. It takes less than a second to reload a typical PB gun and you can do so while continuing to fire. your going to reload a mag fed like my dam every 10 shots and you cant continue to fire.
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^ Looks good TJ, though I think I would go a bit higher on the mask.
I wouldn't.

I switched from the Pro-Flex to a Spectra.
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The aftermarket barrel isn't really necessary. I've got a Vibe stock barrel and its internal finish is quite good. It's a little loud but easier to tuck behind cover.

That's a very nice tank, but it might be overkill for what he's doing.

I'd also add a squeegee, a swab, and a nice bright barrel cover to the shopping list.
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