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Old 06-22-2014, 12:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Funny, I started playing 11 years ago. Everything is definitely different, and it's sad that all the big names left. Thankfully I had a friend who was a huge Angel fan pass away right before WDP closed. I think if he had been around to see it, he would have had a heat attack from that alone. I do see pump and classic markers on the rise, but I can't tell if that's truth, or the fact that I spend a good portion of time on here. The market demolished a vast majority of fields and companies, not to mention players. Some of my local fields that were huge before the crash, if their still around have a handful of people every weekend. We seem to be making a full circle with classic markers and designs being the new trend, but eventually well get back on where everyone has to have the latest and greatest electro, and only MCB wants classics and brass.
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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A lot of consolidation took place, not a lot of competition. A lot of fields went out of business. A lot of paint companies are out of business. Good quality paint is hard to find. Paint is mostly all small bore.

Some people still play, but more people are being effected by the bad economy, that despite what media may say, is still quite bad for the regular guy.
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Old 06-22-2014, 07:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Limited paint and mag fed are becoming more accepted styles of play.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Someone with all the money thinks that having sole control of the entire market is a good idea.
This.
It's turned into Ford, Chevrolet and Chrysler, but now EVERYTHING is made in China. You can buy unnamed knock-offs of everything on "Alibaba".

The "Niche" marketers are still around and going strong, CCI/CCM/Palmer's. And still making it in the US of A.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:38 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I understand that a lot of the paintball market is being dominated by the juggernauts Kee, GI Sports and Dye, but there are a number of independents still making solid markers. Correct me if I'm wrong but AGD, Bob Long, Tiberius, GOG, Planet Eclipse, CCM, MacDev, DLX and Dangerous Power are all still independent and each of them makes a good marker at the price point they're competing at.

Here in Southern Ontario, I have a pretty good selection of paintball fields available within an hour drive. Talking with the owners, most of their income is from the renters rather than big events.

Looking at the gear owners, it's broken into a ton of different niche play styles. Some people only play pump, others only do milsim and some others only play speedball. Even within these styles you'll find pump players that want to play stock class, milsim that only want to do mag fed and speedball players that want to play uncapped.

As a result, I own way too many different markers because I want to play all of the styles.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks guys, that really helps me put the pieces together. I've heard great things about the Empire Resurrection, but it's not really worth the money when you could pick up a cold fusion or CCM cocker for less on the used market.

I'm not too sad by SP getting drawn under, I always thought their markers were inefficient and overpriced. I remember their LPRs were pretty decent, but I hated the Impulse's unreliability and found the Shocker underwhelming. I think the only thing I've ever bought from Empire was paint, they made great paint. As for Tippman, well, my first marker was an SL-68 II, so I guess I'm glad they're not dead. At least now we can build our favorite markers for much less, even if it is at the cost of modern diversity.
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Old 06-22-2014, 02:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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With the valve being trilogy/merlin sized the only company that really makes an upgrade valve is palmers with the LT kit.
CCM's SS25 valve will fit it.. and you can occasionally get tornado valves when you feel like paying out the nose for one

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Old 06-22-2014, 03:11 PM   #18 (permalink)
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It's funny, within the pump/limited paint realm, the consolidation hasn't been noticeable at all. Still have CCI, CCM, PPS, Carter, some pumps from the "big" companies like the Hammer 7, new Trracer, and Empire Sniper, plus a bunch of growth in the magfed side of things. Can't really complain about that.
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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also worth pointing out, the market for milsim and magfed paintball is huge, and the manufacturers of that sector are *not* conglomerated with the big guys either. There is still a large portion of the industry remaining independent, although the percentage of product produced domestically is certainly quite small.
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CCM's SS25 valve will fit it.. and you can occasionally get tornado valves when you feel like paying out the nose for one

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