04 Prostocks are back..should I buy one as my first gun?

TSpb · 11-13-2007, 09:17 PM

Hey, I've played pb at my local field 3 times now, and recently I spent hours and hours reading about pb in general, the gun types, accessories, etc. For some reason 'Cockers are appealing to me, and I noticed the 04 prostocks are back. Since it's only $62, should I buy one as my first gun? Also, I've heard the 'cockers are fun to play stock with/and or tinker with. Thanks

Ir0nExpress · 11-13-2007, 09:21 PM

This is my opinion on cockers.

I don't mind tuning guns, but it's where I live that gives me problems (annoying neighbors/dorm room). I just simply don't have the space to tune it. If you don't mind tuning it every now and then, it's fine. But for someone like me, I need a gun that can sit there for a few years without doing anything at all, and I could pick it up and play with it 6 years later with just a few drops of oil.

That's just cockers for me. At $62, you can't really go wrong.

TSpb · 11-13-2007, 10:11 PM

Alright, and can anyone tell me how many feet this gun shoots before going down/ curving/etc?

Delamorte · 11-13-2007, 11:53 PM

I would stay away from a cocker as your first marker with the exception of the trilogy, which has very little to adjust or mess up. As your first marker you are going to want something that is good to play with out of the box, no adjustments, no timing, but just shoots good and is very reliable. Spyders are great for new players, as well as a tippmann model 98. Both are common, easy to work on, need very little tinkering to make work good, and the tippmann is indestructable.

Later on, when you are comfortable with paintball, pick up something else to tinker with. And hey, if you mess it up, you always have that tippmann or spyder to fall back on.

Don't overlook the trilogy cockers though. Good guns. Especially for new players.

As far as how far any marker shoots, that is a complex question based on paint to barrel match, paint quality, the smoothness of the bore, wind resistance, and complex trigonometry formulas. In other words, It's hard to say haw far it will shoot, because of all the variables.

Rayodder · 11-14-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TSpb

Alright, and can anyone tell me how many feet this gun shoots before going down/ curving/etc?

at 280fps every gun has the same curve, with the exception of Tippmann flatlines barrels.

Mr. Furious · 11-14-2007, 05:09 AM

The prostock is a fantastic value and once they are gone there will be no more. I'd say buy one, get a high pressure air system(because CO2 can make it seem like there's a problem with the marker when there really isn't) and a motorized hopper and just play with it.

Here's the thing about Cockers that gives them a bad reputation: They can be tricky to time and many people get frustrated when they start messing with their marker to try and make it "just a little bit better".

Here's the secret to being a happy Cocker owner: Don't mess with it!

Seriously, I just bought a prostock. It came timed perfectly out of the box and I haven't done a thing to it except adjust the velocity. You need to practice shooting cockers to make sure you know exactly what the marker wants to shoot properly, not chop and not short stroke. A complete pull and release of the trigger for each and every shot is all that is required to make a Cocker sing. With the hinge frames on the Prostocks it is not hard to do but you still need to practice. While you're sitting and watching TV, hold the marker in your lap and pull and release the trigger, pull and release the trigger. Once you have the muscle memory you will be able to shoot pretty darn fast and never shortstroke.

As long as you remember to practice with the trigger, ask for help BEFORE you start turning wrenches and leave the thing alone as long as it's working well you will be super happy with an autococker and you will never find a better marker for $62(or even $162) than the '04 Prostock.

Jaan · 11-14-2007, 09:29 AM

Go for it!

minimag03 · 11-14-2007, 10:25 AM

Go for it. For the price it is A LOT better than anything else.

sdawg · 11-14-2007, 12:07 PM

You really can't go wrong getting a prostock for $62. That's a $400 marker. Heck, where are you finding it for $62? I might get one at the price.

If it works out of the box, you won't have to touch anything except the velocity adjuster, just shoot a few drops of paintball oil through the ASA (with the barrel off). And, I agree, use HPA because CO2 might cause problems that would require to repair the marker (i.e., a pressure spike blowing out the 4-way hose, CO2 freezing the valve, etc.).

If you start tinkering with it you'll either have to learn how to fix your mistakes or be ready to pay a local shop to retime it for you.

PS You could use anti-siphon CO2, and it looks like the only upgrade a pro-stock might need is a clamping feedneck (assuming you can even change the feedneck... I don't know if you can).

TSpb · 11-14-2007, 03:09 PM

Dangit. The prostocks are out of stock again, maybe I'll just get a trilogy. Oh yeah and thanks for the replies.

11-13-2007, 09:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
TSpb Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	04 Prostocks are back..should I buy one as my first gun? Hey, I've played pb at my local field 3 times now, and recently I spent hours and hours reading about pb in general, the gun types, accessories, etc. For some reason 'Cockers are appealing to me, and I noticed the 04 prostocks are back. Since it's only $62, should I buy one as my first gun? Also, I've heard the 'cockers are fun to play stock with/and or tinker with. Thanks

11-13-2007, 09:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ir0nExpress MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Staten Island/Stony Brook New York Posts: 1,324	This is my opinion on cockers. I don't mind tuning guns, but it's where I live that gives me problems (annoying neighbors/dorm room). I just simply don't have the space to tune it. If you don't mind tuning it every now and then, it's fine. But for someone like me, I need a gun that can sit there for a few years without doing anything at all, and I could pick it up and play with it 6 years later with just a few drops of oil. That's just cockers for me. At $62, you can't really go wrong. __________________ President of the SUNY Stony Brook Paintball Club. Feedback

11-14-2007, 05:09 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Furious Got Rage? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northwestern Pennsylvania Posts: 1,908	The prostock is a fantastic value and once they are gone there will be no more. I'd say buy one, get a high pressure air system(because CO2 can make it seem like there's a problem with the marker when there really isn't) and a motorized hopper and just play with it. Here's the thing about Cockers that gives them a bad reputation: They can be tricky to time and many people get frustrated when they start messing with their marker to try and make it "just a little bit better". Here's the secret to being a happy Cocker owner: Don't mess with it! Seriously, I just bought a prostock. It came timed perfectly out of the box and I haven't done a thing to it except adjust the velocity. You need to practice shooting cockers to make sure you know exactly what the marker wants to shoot properly, not chop and not short stroke. A complete pull and release of the trigger for each and every shot is all that is required to make a Cocker sing. With the hinge frames on the Prostocks it is not hard to do but you still need to practice. While you're sitting and watching TV, hold the marker in your lap and pull and release the trigger, pull and release the trigger. Once you have the muscle memory you will be able to shoot pretty darn fast and never shortstroke. As long as you remember to practice with the trigger, ask for help BEFORE you start turning wrenches and leave the thing alone as long as it's working well you will be super happy with an autococker and you will never find a better marker for $62(or even $162) than the '04 Prostock. __________________ A skeleton walks into a bar and orders a beer and a mop...... Feedback: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...-feedback.html

11-14-2007, 09:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jaan MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: People's Republic of Massachusetts Posts: 1,868	Go for it! __________________ "As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; they kill us for their sport." -- Shakespeare, King Lear To find out a girl's faults, praise her to her girl friends. -- Benjamin Franklin

11-14-2007, 10:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
minimag03 MCB Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bluefield, WV Posts: 602	Go for it. For the price it is A LOT better than anything else. __________________ Smackz.com Feeback Gallery

11-13-2007, 10:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
TSpb Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	Alright, and can anyone tell me how many feet this gun shoots before going down/ curving/etc?

11-13-2007, 11:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Delamorte MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Collinsville, Illinois Posts: 237	I would stay away from a cocker as your first marker with the exception of the trilogy, which has very little to adjust or mess up. As your first marker you are going to want something that is good to play with out of the box, no adjustments, no timing, but just shoots good and is very reliable. Spyders are great for new players, as well as a tippmann model 98. Both are common, easy to work on, need very little tinkering to make work good, and the tippmann is indestructable. Later on, when you are comfortable with paintball, pick up something else to tinker with. And hey, if you mess it up, you always have that tippmann or spyder to fall back on. Don't overlook the trilogy cockers though. Good guns. Especially for new players. As far as how far any marker shoots, that is a complex question based on paint to barrel match, paint quality, the smoothness of the bore, wind resistance, and complex trigonometry formulas. In other words, It's hard to say haw far it will shoot, because of all the variables.

11-14-2007, 12:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
sdawg MCB Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,410	You really can't go wrong getting a prostock for $62. That's a $400 marker. Heck, where are you finding it for $62? I might get one at the price. If it works out of the box, you won't have to touch anything except the velocity adjuster, just shoot a few drops of paintball oil through the ASA (with the barrel off). And, I agree, use HPA because CO2 might cause problems that would require to repair the marker (i.e., a pressure spike blowing out the 4-way hose, CO2 freezing the valve, etc.). If you start tinkering with it you'll either have to learn how to fix your mistakes or be ready to pay a local shop to retime it for you. PS You could use anti-siphon CO2, and it looks like the only upgrade a pro-stock might need is a clamping feedneck (assuming you can even change the feedneck... I don't know if you can). __________________ Everybody: Let's ease up on the red loctite, 'kay? Thanks. Feedback

11-14-2007, 03:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
TSpb Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	Dangit. The prostocks are out of stock again, maybe I'll just get a trilogy. Oh yeah and thanks for the replies.

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