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|08-04-2007, 10:59 PM||#11 (permalink)|
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Faribault, MN
Let me just add a few things
Paintball is a huge sport it has more people playing every year than there is in all of baseball.
Statistics show it is also one of the safest sports. "believe it or not"
I have Played since 87 and have never been injured myself, nor have I seen a serious injury other than a badly twisted ankle. As long as you teach the right safety rules to your child then it is one of the safest sports there is.
I know someone mentioned this already I'm just going to expand on it.
It is also important to play with your kid, not just to support them, but to be there and help them understand right from wrong and most importantly good sportsmanship. If you can't physically play then just be there as a spectator to support them. At least until you find and are comfortable enough with one of the more experienced players there that will help them out. But thats if you really need to be somewhere, because I guarantee once you watch or play a few games you will get hooked as much as your kid.
Goggles are important I agree 100% with that. But you don't need to go out and get an 80 - 100 dollar set for your kids, for them to be safe. JT has been around for longer than any other goggle producer out there, and offers a wide verity in masks. The Spectra Systems are the best JT offers and you can get good quality Spectra Nforcer goggles for $35. JT also offers many others in the Spectra line ranging form the $35 Nforcers to the $60 Flex 8 and the $65 Pro flex. The best thing about JT is how long they have been around because you can always get replacement lenses for them and you know there quality if they have been around that long. There are also other good quality goggles systems out there for the same price range. Prices can vary allot depending on were you go. One of the cheapest I found is Action Village.com which is ware these prices are from.
The reason I recommend JT is once I spent $95.00 on the state of the art (at the time) goggle systems called the Vents Predator, within a year after me getting them they went out of business and the Replacement lenses became increasingly hard to find until they disappeared all together. Then I had a $95 goggle system that was only a 1 1/2 maybe 2 years old but were worthless because I had no lens.
But as I said JT has been around a long time and they make motorcycle goggle as well. So you don't have to worry about Replacement Lens availability.
The only real disadvantage to JT is changing the lens, they can be a real pain.
Which is ware your more expensive goggles come in. The better systems such as Empire Events have a quick change lens system. But thats the only real advantage they have over JT(other than the fact that they look really cool)
The most important thing is stay away from ultra cheep goggles
#1 Most do not have thermal lenses (Thermal lens is important to stop your goggles from fogging)Many Players have been injured because of the fogging issue, because they lift their mask to wipe the inside of the lens off (because they can see) and then get hit in the face.
#2 They are not comfortable
#3 Cheap goggle systems usually don't protect as much of your face and head, as do the better systems
#4 They don't let you move as freely or see as freely.
As far as guns go. I recommend something rugged, reliable, simple to fix for the first gun, like a mechanical Semi Auto Blowback such as a Kingman Spyder. They are simple to fix and inexpensive. There are many guns on the market that fit that criteria, I just gave one example.
Stay away from High Tech toys to start with. Such as AutoCockers and Electro's, the reason I say that is because they are more temperamental if they get hit hard, dropped or get wet and so on. They are also harder to repair yourself and more expensive for a pro shop to fix.
Extras that are nice to have
Is a pair of gloves, it stings like heck to get hit in the hands and can even cut the skin if it hits you right.
A small pod pack to start with maybe just a Double pack with 2 140 round pods
and a barrel swab or squeegee to clean your gun
most other stuff can wait till you gain more experience
Now all the stuff I listed Gun, Goggle System, Squeegee, and a few I didn't talk about Tank and Hopper. All of that can be had for less than $200 and for a little bit better gun $300. If you get a package at the right place you can save a fortune. I suggest you shop around and do your home work first before you decide to buy.
I think all of what I said is pretty accurate, but you other guys please add to or correct me if I said something wrong. Sorry I got SOOO long winded
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|09-09-2007, 10:43 AM||#12 (permalink)|
More for a parent..
Good points made by all.
I also agree with the attention paid to safety. As a parent, I teach my son safety, so should you. On the flip side, I have several families that play on my team. Fathers and sons, Fathers and daughters, husbands and wives. It is a great way to spend time together and work out grudges...
During a recent large game I played in, I found myself yelling at several kids to keep their masks on. I explained to them why it was so important and that it wasn't personal, they seemed to understand. Eyes can't be replaced...yet. Don't get me started on barrel blocking devices (plugs or condoms).
Don't shoot for the moon on that first marker, but don't skimp too much either. I started with a Brass Eagle Eradicator that was worthless and came with a cheap mask. I would spend a little more, get a Tippman 98C and a mask with a good lens and wide range of vision. Get a barrel condom, they're acceptable everywhere. Teach yourself proper care of the equipment and pass it on to your kids.
If you don't want to play, hang out. All too often have I seen the mini-vans and SUVs drop off a couple kids and drive off. Get a good book and a comfy camp chair, hang out by the car and wait for them to come off the field. Every parent knows that glint in the eye when a child gets to share an exciting event with you, especially if it just happened. Give them a Gatorade and listen to their play by play.
Don't fight their battles every time. If there is a problem with a player, teach them how to handle it properly - ref, owner however. I don't mean don't get involved EVER, but pick your battles. If the child can't deal properly, how will you be able to leave them to play on their own? Sportsmanship. Far too often today poor sportsman are spoiling a great game for the people out to have F-U-N fun.
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|09-09-2007, 12:22 PM||#13 (permalink)|
Let me add a little more to this as well. Mom and Dad if you sew, that is an important thing too. Why go out and spend useless money on something you can make. With Scenario now being a big part of the sport. Normally I make my own stuff or Bribe my Mom (who lives with my Family and I) with BINGO cash to make me some items. Alot of companies are pushing their items at high prices. If you look at these items ie clothing, you will see they are very easy to make. I normally buy my Camo Fabric after the hunting season. Reason being it's cheaper and Bambi is safe once again lol. I usually use what's called a 1 hr pants set. Something like what medical people wear. It's all unisex,so it really doesn't matter. I look on ebay also. There are many companies that sell items for scenario play. I picked up my molle vest for way under what anyone would sell theirs. Then I just searched around till I found the items I needed to add for very little. I use a flight suit,which is not NOMEX,so that cut the price a whole lot! A name brand shirt is not needed. Usually players that wear these items are followers or wannabe. They are hoping to get picked up on a team. In reality they are just looking for acceptance.
Another issue that seems to bother me is the brain washing that goes on about markers. So if little missy or Jr say there gun isn't correct, it's a bunch of BULL POO. There is no such thing as a woodsball marker or a speed ball marker. Anyone who says there is is full of the same BULL POO. I've used many markers over the yrs in any play that is available. They all do the samething,shoot people out. Plain and simple fact. Realistic looking markers just represent the folks personality,but not neccessary in woods ball or Scenario type play.
As stated thru out this thread, a good Tippmann 98,A5 is a great marker to start off with. You will get your monies worth and great resale value.
Who your kids play with is another matter to consider as well. It's very easy for them to get caught in with the wrong type of paintball crowd too. You know,these are the ones who think they are better then everyone else. It's more attitude then anything. Many team players have these attitudes. Alot a marker and wear specific to play with them. Funny thing is,these dummys can barely put on the air tank lol.
Extra fun items are what I call grenades,booby traps, land mines etc. If you look on the net,there are many alternative methods to making items as such. You can actually make a landmine for about $6.00 in stead of paying $40.00. Paint is just finger paint and water for use in these Nade recipie. So if Dad is a crafty person who is mechanicaly in clined then your set. There is still so much more I can add and I'm not picking on anyone. There are many books and videos that can be had with information. The best first hand info,is playing. I don't care what anyone else says,there is not better learning curve then playing.
So let's keep adding guys and gals. This thread is a little over a yr old and still going strong.
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|09-10-2007, 02:26 AM||#14 (permalink)|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Austin, TX
I'm a parent of a 14 yo girl and an 8yo boy. I play paintball, and the gear is always around the house. I teach them safety in small doses (ie: ensure there is no air/paint when cleaning/customizing) Neither have shot anything yet, but my boy shows tons of interest.
Let them know that while safe in the purest sense of the word, you won't get killed or sent to the hospital form a safe game of paintball... but getting hit DOES hurt. My 8 year old shows enough interest (and is athletic as all hell... skateboarding, swim team etc...) that I'll introduce him to the game at 10-12 years old. Until then, I plan on taking him to a field one day and trying out my markers in the chrono range (One field I used to play at had a target field as well)... let him see just how powerful these guns are. Then, have players coming off the field show him a few welts (or even me if I play that day)
There is a difference between getting seriously injured and getting hurt a little in the course of a game. Let them know the difference so they're not scared to have a few welts... no different than a skinned knee from any other activity... but it can be shocking the first time you get hit and it stings quite a bit, and leaves a mark that lasts a week.
In that vein... perhaps more safety gear than just HIGH QUALITY goggles... I wear knee pads every time I play, mainly for kneeling, but also to protect my shins while crouching. If I sent my pre-teen or early teens son out there, I might have him wear chest and forearm protection as well, so that he didn't get scared off the first time he got lit up. Nothing is more discouraging than realizing that you might come out of every game covered in welts.
Also... for first markers, I want to throw in my recommendation of AGD Automags. Solid shooters, very reliable, small, light trigger pull and infinitely upgradeable. You can go from a basic semi to a warp fed pneumag one step at a time... and as for investment, you'll always get every penny back. My first marker was a Tippmann 98C, then a PGP, now I've discovered the Automag and wonder why I didn't start there... same price range (more or less) for a 68 Classic as a model 98, and half the weight with an upgrade curve that ends in a better overall marker (in my opinion)
And as everyone else has said... avoid letting them flock to the agglets. Flashy gear will catch their eye, but that crowd (no offense) are the ones that'll instill value on high end gear rather than sportsmanship and fun. Perhaps dads can take their kids out and talk to some seasoned looking players for advice. I'm still new to the sport, and I can see the difference in advice from the electro crowd to the pump crowd... and while the MCB mentality may not be present on every field, there is a happy medium where advice on tactics and sportsmanship outweighs flashy gear and balls per second.
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|09-10-2007, 04:27 PM||#15 (permalink)|
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Amber. My ten year old? Hates pain. But likes paintball more.
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|11-10-2007, 11:32 PM||#16 (permalink)|
Join Date: May 2007
I can't stress safety enough. Most real players who love the game feel the same way. That being said, if you find that you are unable to play paintball with your child, find the person at the feild that stresses safety the most. You know, the one that is always making sure that goggles are on and barrel bags are on even if they are not reffing or playing at the time. ZERO IN ON THAT PERSON!!! Nine times out of ten, he or she is a great person that would actually like to help your child learn the fundamentals of paintball. Nothing, I repeat nothing is more important for a long term love of the sport than being introduced by someone who also loves the game.
As a side effect, paintball is very healthy. I by know means lead a sedintary lifestyle, but a day on the field is more physically challenging than a day at work. So, if your child gets hooked and you find yourself needing to exercise more, grab a rental and go play for a few hours. Beats a treadmill.
PBIF, remember that.
|01-28-2008, 10:54 AM||#17 (permalink)|
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Blackrain, great post!
I agree with eveything! Gun safety is the most important thing! I always say, "the best safety is your finger!" Keep that finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire the gun. Once the trigger is pulled, you can't get the ball back, so be sure of your target!
I played on Saturday and we had several newbie kids and some Dads out there. I had to tell one boy four times to keep his mask down! Paintball welts heal, but you can't regrow an eyeball!
You're also dead on about the "flashy outfits" look for the older guys wearing faded camo, odds are they've been around a while...
Also, like you said RENT First! Yes, rentals usually suck, but it's better than making a major investment and finding out that your offspring has changed their mind about the whole thing.
Be wary of used markers at some dealers, if it sounds too good to be true it is! My neighbor didn't listen to my advice about buying a Tippmann for his 12yr old to use in the woods and was "sold" a used Ion which never has worked right!
|01-28-2008, 01:42 PM||#18 (permalink)|
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As a parent of two boys, 10 and 12, I know the feeling of my boys playing paintball. They have expressed quite a bit of interest lately about actually playing the game. Previously it was just shooting targets in the backyard. They have the advantage of me guiding them through the beginning. Both of my boys are into sports, hockey (imagine in Canada), baseball, intramurals (sports at school), in all of their sports I coach. So I am very involved in their sports and lives. I think as a parent of a child wanting to start I think they should be looking for parents like us to help. Any parent reading these posts would know about this site, and get an idea of our character. Several of my sons friends want to play with us. I think it is great, I have brought several of their friends out with us and done a safety course with them just like when I ran my field. But the best part I make one of their parents come with us. Yes dependable equipment is a must, excellent eye protection, etc, etc. But I think what I am getting at is find a sound character, as is found here, and have them walk you through everything. Experience cannot be substituted for anything.
|02-22-2008, 09:26 AM||#19 (permalink)|
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Hey, Just to give in my two cents.......I started taking an active role in paintball illegaly at the age of 9 (1990) and was hooked at the first trigger pull, On the down side, My father took NO interest in the sport what so ever, although he was minorly supportive behind he scenes, its somthing I cant stress enough, If your child shows an intrest paintball become an active partisipant also, Its somthing I missed out on, Still to this day my dad has only played ONCE! dont get me wrong I did all the sports he wanted me to do growing up ( ie football, wrestling, track, baseball) but still no interest. So to all the paintball parents out there, embrace a passion when you see it
|02-22-2008, 10:24 AM||#20 (permalink)|
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The one interesting theme I found in this theme in this thread is everyone suggesting semi's to start on with kids. My boys have yet to fire a semi. They have only shot pumps for practise in the backyard, and their first game coming up will be pumps only. I believe this to be a better way to introduce kids to paintball. Slower pace, better grasp of tactics and teamwork, and a lot less paint in the air. Not to mention the cost factor, Anyone starting out should try to have their kids in a pump only night at their field.
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