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Old 03-24-2007, 08:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Any palmer gun with a nice trigger will feel in my opinion better than the ULT trigger pull for an RT mag.

The ULT trigger pull is mushy. It is light, but it feels like i am squishing a stick through play dough or something. Just not good.

The blazer with a .45 frame, and from my experience the newer mag style frame work extremely well, they are snappy, but not too heavy and really allow the user to get a very fast rhythm going.

I have always prefered automated cocking to the automag design, I dont like the on off valve.
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:42 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Mags are far superior to Palmers any day sir

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Any palmer gun with a nice trigger will feel in my opinion better than the ULT trigger pull for an RT mag.

The ULT trigger pull is mushy. It is light, but it feels like i am squishing a stick through play dough or something. Just not good.

The blazer with a .45 frame, and from my experience the newer mag style frame work extremely well, they are snappy, but not too heavy and really allow the user to get a very fast rhythm going.

I have always prefered automated cocking to the automag design, I dont like the on off valve.
I disagree on that. I picked up an older Blazer. Wouldnt rapid fire and short stroked bad. And it had just come back from PPS so it was tuned up an all.
It was pathetic in my opinion. Traded it off immediately.

The mag is way more customizable and can be tuned to a sweet trigger pull with a ULT kit. I have had several Xvalved mech mags that I could two finger walk like an electronic marker. Saying that all my mags have Xvalves and ULT kits.

So in my opinion, Xvalved mags are highly superior in performance to Blazers.
Downside....mags are gas hogs.
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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So in my opinion, Xvalved mags are highly superior in performance to Blazers.
I totally disagree. Mags are maintenance hogs and gas hogs. Blazers just go and go. Never rebuilt my Blazers... but the mags need stripping down all the time for new seals and crap. They suck. I choose Blazer over mag ANY DAY for efficiency, performance, reliability and plain awesomeness.
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Old 05-05-2007, 04:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I totally disagree. Mags are maintenance hogs and gas hogs. Blazers just go and go. Never rebuilt my Blazers... but the mags need stripping down all the time for new seals and crap. They suck. I choose Blazer over mag ANY DAY for efficiency, performance, reliability and plain awesomeness.
I have been messing with Xvalves for years and I have yet to have to do anything but oil them, so I have to say, you have no idea what you are talking about on that one guy.

As far as being a gas hog, that part is true, and there is nothing anyone can do about that.
Another point in favor of PPS is they can use CO2, Xvalves cant.
Which only matters to those that cant get air, a very small percentage of the total paintball playing population.

But as far as performance, Xvalves with ULT trigger kit win hands down.
And lets not even mention the customize-ability factor. You are pretty much stuck with whatever you bought from PPS, but the possibilities are only limited to the size of your wallet when it comes to mags.Virtually endless.
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Old 05-05-2007, 04:37 PM   #25 (permalink)
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And lets not even mention the customize-ability factor. You are pretty much stuck with whatever you bought from PPS, but the possibilities are only limited to the size of your wallet when it comes to mags.Virtually endless.
Thats a +1 for the Blazer! Knowing it NEVER NEEDS upgrades to perform. Priceless!
(Stuck? Never heard of an E-Blazer upgrade?)

PPS brass... another +1.

Plus efficiency is a PART of performance... so how does inefficiency make better performance?

Whatever... to each his own.
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Old 05-05-2007, 04:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I disagree on that. I picked up an older Blazer. Wouldnt rapid fire and short stroked bad. And it had just come back from PPS so it was tuned up an all.
It was pathetic in my opinion. Traded it off immediately.

The mag is way more customizable and can be tuned to a sweet trigger pull with a ULT kit. I have had several Xvalved mech mags that I could two finger walk like an electronic marker. Saying that all my mags have Xvalves and ULT kits.

So in my opinion, Xvalved mags are highly superior in performance to Blazers.
Downside....mags are gas hogs.
When you post things like is amidst a sea of positive reviews of Blazers, I have trouble believing this. My opinion is you got a lemon Blazer, or something got knocked out of time in transit. Even with my stock Sheridan trigger, I have to TRY to short stroke it, and even then it is very difficult. Everyone I've ever talked to that has used a Blazer has never said anything remotely close to what you describe. I would not put much faith in your "review" of Blazers, having only used an improperly tuned one for a very short amount of time and then trading it off. From what I see, you have very little to back your claim that mags are better.
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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When you post things like is amidst a sea of positive reviews of Blazers, I have trouble believing this. My opinion is you got a lemon Blazer, or something got knocked out of time in transit. Even with my stock Sheridan trigger, I have to TRY to short stroke it, and even then it is very difficult. Everyone I've ever talked to that has used a Blazer has never said anything remotely close to what you describe. I would not put much faith in your "review" of Blazers, having only used an improperly tuned one for a very short amount of time and then trading it off. From what I see, you have very little to back your claim that mags are better.
Well opinions are like feet, most everyone has them, and most of them stink.

Having said that, heres what I will say, let me know when you can two finger walk your mechanical Blazer. I can do that with my Xvalved ULT Mag.
You may be right, I may have gotten a bad Blazer though.
And lets look at some of the mech mags I've built, can you do that with your Blazer ? I dont think so.


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Old 05-05-2007, 07:15 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Those things are more assembled than built.

I believe they look excellent but it doesn't take much more than the money it takes to order the parts to make them work.

If you really want very good walkability in either the blazer or the mag you are better off with a pneumatic trigger setup.

Borrow or just shoot a later model blazer with a blade trigger, you may like how it feels, but you may just want to like a mag. Certainly many blazers are better than others.

Either way, mags are beautiful and i always like the way they operate and the fact that they are so easy to go through. I like tom's work as far as paintball goes and really I do like automags.

I guess i kind of decided against their on off valve? <shrug>
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:52 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Short stroking a Blazer is possible when you don't take time to learn the trigger. PPS always recommends running a full tank through a new Blazer with no paint in order to break it in, break in the reg (if you have one on it), and to get used to the trigger pull. Just sounds like Going_Home didn't do that, no big deal, just means someone else got a deal on a Blazer!

As for Mags, yes, they're gas hogs, but I've never had to tear into either of the two MiniMags I've had (Level 7's), just cleaned out the barrel/exterior and oiled them. No problems whatsoever.
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Old 05-05-2007, 11:06 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I love my blazer. However, to say it can't be short stroked is kind of silly. I handed it over to my buddy (Not a paintballer) and he short stroked the trigger about 3 of his first 5 shots. (Sheridan single trigger 2k series)

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