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Old 01-18-2007, 01:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'll admit it: I'm a sucker for both mags and cockers. I've got one cocker (a slinger) that I just keep for kicks, I've got another slinger in the works I plan on selling to fund building a pump mag later on, I've got a '99 cocker block thats waiting for a pump kit and guts, a micromag that I adore.... And it's all because there's stuff to do with it. What are you gonna do with an Ion? Take it out of the box and play with it? Then get a dress-up kit (like it's a Ken doll or something) and a new bolt? Yeah, sounds like a ton of fun to me.... I'd rather be trying out different hammer weights and spring combos.
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Old 01-18-2007, 01:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I love my 'cocker... it is great. Only thing to remember... always wear a shirt and keep the back block clear of your nipple area. Very painful mishaps...
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Old 01-18-2007, 02:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
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In reality cockers and Mags alike were considered the first "main stream high end guns". While cockers were made by SEVERAL different companies and aftermarket parts were highly available Mags werent so lucky. This has contributed greatly to them sticking around and maintaining their "high end" persona. These days they are the catch all, penny pinchers "high end" marker(weather folks realize it or not).

With the abundance of aftermarket bits the base marker became more efficient, reliable and afordable. These days you can spend half the money you would on a new/used "high end" marker and build or purchase yourself a LP machine gun cocker.

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Old 01-18-2007, 04:23 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The thing I like about 'Cocker is the fact that the entire gun can be controlled. You control literally every aspect of the gun.

But I'll always love my 'Mags more. (And Dempsey will always laugh at me for it... Just kidding, Dan. )
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:24 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Where would you rate a 2K3 Black Magic Autococker? I can get one for $200, or get a PPS Blazer for $350. Which gun would you recommend more? Also what is a Mag?

And cockers can run off CO2 fine right?
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Where would you rate a 2K3 Black Magic Autococker? I can get one for $200, or get a PPS Blazer for $350. Which gun would you recommend more? Also what is a Mag?

And cockers can run off CO2 fine right?
If you're the type who just has to tinker, get the 'Cocker. Black Magics are very nice out of the box,but I'd recommend installing an adjustable LPR (pneumatics regulator) like a PPS Rock. They'll work on CO2, but you'll need a good, CO2-tolerant inline reg (like a PPS Stabilizer) and an anti-siphon tube in the tank (or running a remote line) are practically requirements.

If you want to take it out of your bag & play, get the Blazer. While you can tinker with a Blazer, it's neither necessary nor recommended. I have a Blazer myself as my "everyday" shooter, but it's often just a backup to one of my 'Cockers. I'm a hopeless tinkerer....
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think I'll get the Blazer, so I have a reliable gun, then later I'll buy a Autococker to be my finesse gun. Does that make since. Tinkering is my thing, but I want a gun I know will shoot.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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-The first and primary reason for using an autococker is the moving backblock.

-The second is because with its exposed pneumatics it looks like the Sulaco from Aliens.

I've tried a lot of different guns for rec and scenario play, and have come to like the overall control of an autococker's performance, the ease of understanding how it works and the reliability I've experienced. In all the times I've used a cocker, its never lived up to its reputation as being mechnicaly unreliable or finiky.

The other great thing about cockers is that you can make them exactly how you want. You can change out any part to make the gun truly yours or alter some aspect of a gun to make it 'perfect' for you.

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Old 01-18-2007, 10:47 AM   #19 (permalink)
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The cocker is a accurate gun and just plain old fun!!
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Old 01-18-2007, 12:22 PM   #20 (permalink)
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A Blazer is pretty much a refined version of the autococking platform (which Palmer's invented first)
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