Paintball

[JOESPUD27]

Originally Posted by Frontier_Bill

I love my 'cocker... it is great. Only thing to remember... always wear a shirt and keep the back block clear of your nipple area. Very painful mishaps...

OMG Ow!

I prefer the Blazer.

Jay

[DCB]

Get the cocker. Once they are tuned, they will stay that way for a long time.
Cocker - better than - Blazer

[Wycke]

Originally Posted by DCB

Get the cocker. Once they are tuned, they will stay that way for a long time.
Cocker - better than - Blazer

I don't really think one is 'better' than the other...they're just different. In certain respects, one may have an advantage over the other. A lot of people have cited the back block as the reason they love 'cockers...personally, it's the one thing that I hate the most about the design. Sure, it looks cool, flying back & forth like that, but it's just another externally moving part. Ever had it smack your goggles and crack the lens? I'm not saying that the lack of a back block makes the Blazer better, but if you're like me, that lack has saved me from buying new lenses every couple of months.

Now, for the non-tinkerer, the only real advantage the 'Cocker has in my eyes is that you can take it just about anywhere to get it fixed. There's a general move away from them as gun techs become more accustomed to working on the cheap electros that are saturating the game, but I doubt there will come a day that you could swing a dead cat at a field without hitting someone who can help you fix a 'Cocker.*


*Note: The author neither participates in nor condones the act of swinging cats, be they alive or dead. The author and his spouse are, after all, card-carrying members of the American Humane Society. Please spay and neuter your pets. When they die, please bury, cremate or have them stuffed & mounted, but for the love of all that is good and right, do NOT swing them.

[doicomehereoften]

Originally Posted by Wycke

Ever had it smack your goggles and crack the lens? I'm not saying that the lack of a back block makes the Blazer better, but if you're like me, that lack has saved me from buying new lenses every couple of months.

The only thing I can say against this is that beavertail will also (nearly) eliminate the problem of getting smacked in the goggles with the backblock. And then the beavertail also turns into a convenient snatch grip.

[rathbaster]

Originally Posted by Wycke

you can take it just about anywhere to get it fixed

Actually, people can fix any problem themselves on a cocker.

"Fix a cocker and someone plays for a day, show them how to fix it and they never have to bother you again."

The biggest impediment to me ever owning a blazer is the fact that Palmer stuff is not supposed to be user servicable. I have several dead Rock LPRs lying around...but no dead Sledgehammer LPRs.

-rat

[DCB]

I have never hit my goggles while playing. I have owned 2 Blazers and many cockers/ Snipers and I prefer the cocker.

[Wycke]

Originally Posted by rathbaster

Actually, people can fix any problem themselves on a cocker.

"Fix a cocker and someone plays for a day, show them how to fix it and they never have to bother you again."

The biggest impediment to me ever owning a blazer is the fact that Palmer stuff is not supposed to be user servicable. I have several dead Rock LPRs lying around...but no dead Sledgehammer LPRs.

-rat

I'm pretty sure if you call PPS about those dead Rocks, they'll either let you buy a rebuild kit or tell you to send them in & they'll fix 'em for free. They do have a lifetime warranty, after all. And yes, you're not supposed to self-service a Blazer, but that doesn't mean you can't. I've replaced 3-way seals on both my Blazers, the ram seals on my current one, and even done a complete teardown & rebuild myself. The key is that the timing adjustments are lock-tited when the gun is built. As long as you don't mess with those adjustments, they're fairly easy to work on. Also, once you understand the concept of how they work, you can choose to mess with the timing, but be prepared to send it to the pros if you can't get it right. Personally, I haven't felt the need to do that yet on my Blazer. The trigger is fine, I've learned not to short-stroke it, and I like the fact that I can just gas it up & go. It's only ever failed me once, and that was a 20 degree day when something decided to cut the ram piston seal - my fault for not gassing it up ahead of time.

PS: yes, I know that beavertails are there for a reason, but they look so much cooler without 'em.

[rathbaster]

Originally Posted by Wycke

I'm pretty sure if you call PPS about those dead Rocks, they'll either let you buy a rebuild kit or tell you to send them in & they'll fix 'em for free. They do have a lifetime warranty, after all.

I know, but I'm to cheap to spend the money on shipping, especially when I have a bunch of working LPRs kicking around I'll probably put them up for sale to someone less cheap than I someday

PS: yes, I know that beavertails are there for a reason, but they look so much cooler without 'em.

Actually, the beavertail is not there to keep you from banging yourself in the head, but to prevent the 'iron hand' maneuver (also known as 'thumbing the rod' ) Doc Nickle's pointy cocking rods are supposed to do the same thing.....just more painfully

-rat

[SaintScythus]

So would you guys recommend a Black Magic? I also like the looks of the Orracle. And is there a way to convert a pump back into a autococker? Also I'm looking to play mainly woodsball, is a Autococker going to stand up to the abuse?

BTW You guys convinced me to get an autococker. Now I have to trade off my nice 68 Carbine.

[mullet]

The pre electro black magics? their nice, and the orracle, I like the look of the Orracle better IMO. Converting an autococker to a pump and back is very easy, the autococker is a pump with a set of phnumatics on the front to do the pumping for you (those 3 things with the tubes comming off and into them) so going to pump and back is as easy as unscrewing and rescrewing a couple of bolts. And lastly the cocker will stand up to "abuse" as in if you drop it it should be fine, but you have to take the time to learn the marker and learn how to time it, abuseive tinkering wont go over too well. Just keep this saying in mind "if it aint broke don't fix it". Unless your like me, then be prepiard for agonizing headachs which only makes when I play with it that much better