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Old 06-28-2007, 05:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Razorback Valve tube

Anyone know where I can find valve power tubes for a Razorback II?

I also have a nightmare longbarrel that needs valve (cup) seal.

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Old 06-28-2007, 07:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Im not sure, but i have found that trracer/maverick side cocking internals will work just fine, so, maybe look into ASP Air Soldier Products's old scool catalogue of stuff and buy a lapco powertube? i believe they will work just fine on yours.
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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somebody has a HUGE parts thread and inside are plenty of nelson guts. Had a powertube for my Nelson based pump for under $20 shipped
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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good luck finding a Nightmare cup seal. i've heard ways to refurbish an old one but don't remember the details to help you any. maybe someone will speak up about it.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I dont know about the nightmare's cupseal (is it a flat plastic one, simmilar to a therno disk?) but a mild abrasive will resurface most cup seals. Toothpaste for example.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I had a lot of trouble years ago finding a powertube for my razorback. They are fatter at the base where it slides through the valve seal, and are longer then most nelson tubes . I found that the Diablo pumps used the same and got one of those. but they have since gone scarce. There are some "black hawk" pumps on e-bay, they use razorback guts, and sell pretty cheap. Traccer wont work unless you change the hammer and bolt too.
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well when i swapped on my friend;s, the bolt worked with the hammer and tube... maybe its one of those things that depends on which bolt?
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Early trracers have the "traditional" nelson style hammer and powertube, and these I think are mostly compatible with razorbacks. The later style trracers with the powertube attached to the hammer instaed of the valve, are not.
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well..the one i swapped out included the later powertube-attached to hammer thing and the bolt still works.
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