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Old 12-31-2012, 11:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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That last post is actually the perfect segway into my post.

The earlier ones didn't have any seal around the pierce pin. I've never had a problem with them leaking but I don't believe anyone even Nelson has any more if that one breaks (which I have only heard of happening once) This will lead to one possible compatibility issue.

Since there was no seal, and no collar for a seal, the frames didn't have a hole big enough to accommodate a seal going through them. Check yours, this may require some trading out or modifying of the frame.
I did not know that, I always thought that it required the seal...figures why I don't have the cut out for the stem and collar to go thru and the grip was stamped Aug 14, 1984 [or something like that]. The nelson that was former rust bucket that I got off this site had the cut out for the collar, now it all makes sense!

There are grips that support the 12gram as they have a gaping hole where you insert the 12gram and there is a speed wheel that was used many moon ago. I know Baccipaintball.com sold battle grips that had the hole for the 12gram but couldn't find it...:/
http://www.baccipaintball.com/nel498.html

http://www.baccipaintball.com/parts/...son-grips.html
There is a link to Baccipaintball that shows what they look however when I clicked the link they don't have them instock...

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ya that bushing may not be there on mine. But I will take a closer look again tomorrow
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Yes, I run a set of battle grips and a Short change (in grip lever changer) on mine.

If there is a faster way to change a 12ie in any gun I haven't found it yet.
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Stock class = 12grams and a stick feed. End discussion.
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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At the shop, we remove the original pierce pin and install the new style factory nelson pierce assembly. We have those parts. That's one of our services.

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