scba for outlaw play

thumper · 10-22-2012, 10:53 AM

hey all - I just discovered this
AirTanksForSale

scba tanks. 97 cu ft - carbon fiber - 12 lbs.

we play a bit of outlaw and scuba tanks work ok.. but kind of heavy and not much usable gas.

I'm thinking of cascading 3200psi scuba to 3200psi scuba to 4500psi scba.

thoughts pls.

Spartacus · 10-22-2012, 12:30 PM

IMHO, cascading in the field for "outlaw ball" is a PITA. I prefer to bring along several SCBA with bleed off valves. I realize that you will get lower PSI for each tank fill. However, if unless you have less than 10 players, there will not be a bunch of shooting.

desertT1 · 10-22-2012, 12:45 PM

At that price you could get a few aluminum 80 cubic feet tanks. If you want to spend that much, I would instead suggest a 4500psi tank and a 4500 psi Shoebox. Fill the tanks to 3k if that's what your players are using, but you will get more fills before dipping into the 2k psi range.

If you (as in your group) are filling a 3k tank off of a 4.5k scuba you (as in YOU) need to be the one doing the filling so people don't overfill. I know 3k tanks are hydro'd at 4.5k, but they should only be filled to their rating at the field.

thumper · 10-22-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by desertT1

At that price you could get a few aluminum 80 cubic feet tanks. ..

Yeah we all pretty much use 45/45s on our guns and already have a couple of 80 cuft scubas we have been using.

I'm just thinking how sweet it would be to top off to 4Kish. and I keep thinking about a shoebox... yuummmm.

If my math is right the local scuba shop charges by the cu ft and will go to 4500psi @ $0.0875 / cuft.. that should translate to $9 to fill a 97 cu ft scba tank to 4500 psi.

Grendel · 10-22-2012, 03:07 PM

Shoebox compressor and some +4500psig rated bulk tanks would be great especially if the local scuba shop can charge up to 5K like we were discussing over Mexican

That would give us a lot of flexibility especially if more peeps become attracted to playing.

thumper · 10-22-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Grendel

Shoebox compressor and some +4500psig rated bulk tanks would be great especially if the local scuba shop can charge up to 5K like we were discussing over Mexican

That would give us a lot of flexibility especially if more peeps become attracted to playing.

I wonder how long it would take a shoebox to fill 97cuft?

btw: thedaan just joined mcb.. go figure

LT. · 10-22-2012, 05:16 PM

7-14 days.

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Originally Posted by thumper

I wonder how long it would take a shoebox to fill 97cuft?

btw: thedaan just joined mcb.. go figure

desertT1 · 10-22-2012, 05:20 PM

I don't think it would be that long. Mine will fill my 80cuft one in about a day. I don't ever let it get that low though, so really it is a few hours to top it off.

thumper · 10-23-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by desertT1

I don't think it would be that long. Mine will fill my 80cuft one in about a day. I don't ever let it get that low though, so really it is a few hours to top it off.

nice!

a few hours to top it to 4500? from what starting pressure?

TheDaan · 10-23-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by thumper

I wonder how long it would take a shoebox to fill 97cuft?

btw: thedaan just joined mcb.. go figure

Yes. Sorry, I thought I already had a user name. Been Lurking too long.

10-22-2012, 10:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
thumper pump snob Join Date: Jul 2006	scba for outlaw play hey all - I just discovered this AirTanksForSale scba tanks. 97 cu ft - carbon fiber - 12 lbs. we play a bit of outlaw and scuba tanks work ok.. but kind of heavy and not much usable gas. I'm thinking of cascading 3200psi scuba to 3200psi scuba to 4500psi scba. thoughts pls. __________________ --- Don't drink the Kool-Aid !!! ---

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desertT1 2 Infinity and Beyond! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vail, AZ	At that price you could get a few aluminum 80 cubic feet tanks. If you want to spend that much, I would instead suggest a 4500psi tank and a 4500 psi Shoebox. Fill the tanks to 3k if that's what your players are using, but you will get more fills before dipping into the 2k psi range. If you (as in your group) are filling a 3k tank off of a 4.5k scuba you (as in YOU) need to be the one doing the filling so people don't overfill. I know 3k tanks are hydro'd at 4.5k, but they should only be filled to their rating at the field. __________________ Feedback XBOX 360 game lot, 17 games for $140 shipped! FS: Far Cry 3 for 360 FS: Action Markers AM-4 and Project Cocker

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Grendel MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lexington, SC	Shoebox compressor and some +4500psig rated bulk tanks would be great especially if the local scuba shop can charge up to 5K like we were discussing over Mexican That would give us a lot of flexibility especially if more peeps become attracted to playing. __________________ "Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud." -Sophocles My Pyre #PY008 RF Oak Grendel's Feedback on MCB

10-22-2012, 05:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
desertT1 2 Infinity and Beyond! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vail, AZ	I don't think it would be that long. Mine will fill my 80cuft one in about a day. I don't ever let it get that low though, so really it is a few hours to top it off. __________________ Feedback XBOX 360 game lot, 17 games for $140 shipped! FS: Far Cry 3 for 360 FS: Action Markers AM-4 and Project Cocker

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10-22-2012, 12:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spartacus Hellions Join Date: Jul 2006	IMHO, cascading in the field for "outlaw ball" is a PITA. I prefer to bring along several SCBA with bleed off valves. I realize that you will get lower PSI for each tank fill. However, if unless you have less than 10 players, there will not be a bunch of shooting.