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Old 02-10-2010, 06:48 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Just for the record, there definitely a relation to control bore length. To discount that is preposterous.
Discount it like this?

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There is likely a back length sweetspot as well -- it has been conventional wisdom that backs shorter than a certain length are less efficient, and we know that for example the tape or nail polish trick results in negligible efficiency.
I not only ackowledged it, I controlled for it. You discussed a length-controlled test by bringing in length as a variable and treating it as uncontrolled.

When you make such deliberately misleading and misrepresentative claims, and then express cockerpunk sentiments in the same discussion, it's pretty clear where you are coming from and what you are trying to do, even if it might be subconscious to you.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:00 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I not only ackowledged it, I controlled for it. You discussed a length-controlled test by bringing in length as a variable and treating it as uncontrolled.

When you make such deliberately misleading and misrepresentative claims, and then express cockerpunk sentiments in the same discussion, it's pretty clear where you are coming from and what you are trying to do, even if it might be subconscious to you.
That does not mitigate the length portion of the equation in the least bit, acknowledgement =/= mitigation.

Perhaps drg, if more than one person has the same sentiment towards yourself: U r doin it wrong.

I can see however that this is pointless and not fruitful for myself. You sir, like to argue for the sole reason of enjoyment.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:13 PM   #53 (permalink)
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this was such an interesting discussion can we get back to it please?

the problem i see with adapting this for freak use is that there is no step for the balls to line up from the breech, without a step up the ball would encounter a .667 diameter hole from a .688 or larger breech area, causing possible ball clipping? does the python kits accommodate for this fairly large decrease in diameter?

fascinating tho you guys are in very different climates. if the test conditions were recorded we could probably extrapolate some differences extreme climates can cause.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:18 PM   #54 (permalink)
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got it - I thought you were using two different traits - sweetspot and efficiency.
Well a sweetspot is just a representation of the data; it's just the area at or near the peak (or nadir) of a curve. Efficiency (the measured value) compared to the underbore variable is primarily how I am defining the sweetspot in what you quoted; I actually also saw the sweetspot of the consistency curve at the same place as the efficiency sweetspot, but I'm less confident in those results as they are mathematically a bit further derived than the efficiency numbers. So I made no judgment on the consistency as far as underbore.
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That does not mitigate the length portion of the equation in the least bit, acknowledgement =/= mitigation.
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I not only ackowledged it, I controlled for it.
CONTROL = mitigation. Length was controlled. Do you not understand how this works?

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fascinating tho you guys are in very different climates. if the test conditions were recorded we could probably extrapolate some differences extreme climates can cause.
I record them.

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Old 02-10-2010, 07:21 PM   #56 (permalink)
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.667 is a reball sized insert as well guys.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:40 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:42 PM   #58 (permalink)
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.667 is a reball sized insert as well guys.
Pretty sure that's what this is intended for, no?

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It's me drg again. Yup, still in sunny Hawaii, shooting at Koa, and arguing about paintball on MCB. Regardless of the outcome I win because I'm still in Hawaii.

Not true! Sometimes it rains. And sometimes Koa is moody, that bitch.
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What does Koa's mood have to do with him being a target?
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