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Old 09-20-2010, 04:01 AM   #111 (permalink)
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So... who will be the first to mount a havok on the bottom and/or the top pump handle rails just for gits and shiggles...
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:03 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Ya know, if you're just going to run as an anti-tank player, a Trracer with a Havok might not be a half bad idea lol...
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:05 AM   #113 (permalink)
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A note to Simon: both with the SA-17 and this new Trracer, I was struck by how GOOD they looked and felt in person and how poorly the marketing photographs portrayed that.

Please don't take that the wrong way; the photos are well shot but, to me, they don't flatter the guns as much as they could. If I get my hands on either, I'll take some pics and post.
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I like what I'm seeing.
I've also got 4 Wood Pump Handles made of Curly Figured Rock Maple
ready to go that should fit these, provided it's barrel has a 1" OD.
It is a 1" OD. I look forward to seeing what it looks like with one of your pump handles on it.

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Is the bolt plastic?
No it's Aluminium. That's like aluminum but better because it has an extra "i".

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I was wondering......do you guys think you can switch out the new trigger frame with a older trracer frame? I much prefer M4/AR15 grips.
I'm afraid not. Sorry.

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Does it come stock with a velocity adjuster?
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Hmmmm...I'm getting one. Any word if they come in different colors?
Not at this point, but if it's successful and people bombard the Empire marketing team e-mail with requests for Olive Drab, I will push for that from my side too. Just help me out... a little.

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empire and/or airsmiths on mcb should consider the following statement...
this gun is asking for a slight breech mod and a removable first strike feed tube.
Why a breech mod? The gun's breech is already designed to allow the use of First Strike rounds.

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Rails removable? I might call up KEE and see if they'll sell me the body by itself. I just want my Trracer to be cocker threaded.
I'm not certain that will work, I would need to swap and match some parts. The internals (if you swap a full set) will work in one gun or the other, but to make it work with the grip frame and trigger, the rear donkey is a little longer to the mounting screw.
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:13 AM   #114 (permalink)
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Why a breech mod? The gun's breech is already designed to allow the use of First Strike rounds.
But is there a FS mag available, or do we need to load them individually?...
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:39 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Simon, for the Trracer, I'd be seriously interested in that nice BT Digital camo pattern you guys have. Maybe a matching 10 round stock tube or spare mag pack to go with it would be amazing.
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But is there a FS mag available, or do we need to load them individually?...
Unless someone makes a First Strike mag adapter you will have to load them individually.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:03 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Unless someone makes a First Strike mag adapter you will have to load them individually.
for now

Simon said they're working on it
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:52 PM   #118 (permalink)
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Why a breech mod? The gun's breech is already designed to allow the use of First Strike rounds.
I didn't realize that the breech is shaped to allow loading of FS rounds. Great. Now, just make a 10-rd tube in shape of FS rounds and we have ourselves a FS stick-feed pump.
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:53 PM   #119 (permalink)
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Is it mostly made of plastic?

Is it manufactured in china?


If these questions were put to the original Tracer how would the answers compare?

Just a few pre-purchase questions I had before jumping into this. I might just be too old school growing up on PMI pump guns and CCI phantoms. It looks promising I love the prospect of bringing back a pseudo classic marker.
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:59 PM   #120 (permalink)
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Is it mostly made of plastic?

Is it manufactured in china?


If these questions were put to the original Tracer how would the answers compare?

Just a few pre-purchase questions I had before jumping into this. I might just be too old school growing up on PMI pump guns and CCI phantoms. It looks promising I love the prospect of bringing back a pseudo classic marker.
I know these were answered throughout the thread, but it's become a LONG thread.

I don't know exactly where it was manufactured, nor the original... Sorry. But I can tell you it is not China. The barrel, body, and internals are all metal. The top rail and grip frame are composite. No different then the composite frames back in the day, but today, these are much stronger, durable, and will last a long time. It's the same stuff they make some of the high quality milsim guns out of.
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