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Old 11-11-2010, 01:10 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:57 AM   #42 (permalink)
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you know what's funny? spyders spent years until they finally managed to move the gripframe forward, and high end guns move them to the back.
This is actually a great example of design trending...

For a while, consumers were infatuated with how small a marker could be, so everybody built progressively smaller guns. Manufacturers came up with buzzwords to sell it... Lighter/tighter. Etc.

Except that having guns that small are horrible for ergonomics. Ever wondered why that kid with the stock tippmann is racking up as many kills as you are? Because his aimpoint is way easier to control.

So now, guns are trending cautiously towards a longer design. Besides a few early adopters (macdev), and a few manufacturers that never went light'n'tight, all the companies are going to release guns that get longer for the next few years.

Spyder, meanwhile, is just being spyder. They're now catching up to the last fad, just in time to STILL be out of date.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:02 AM   #43 (permalink)
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If I were in the market for an electro, I'd rather get this than an etek. Milling isn't too bad, overall is much like the rest of the poppet valves out there (egos are poppet, right?). The whole macro less thing is getting popular these days.

That old alien is sweet. Kind of funky on the top, but I like how it is different.
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Oh now that's cool. I'd love to see how he got that door to rotate.
There were many different versions durings its preproduction cycle.

Initially, they used a dual-ram system. One for the valve, and one for the door. Then a small DC motor was considered, and eventually, later versions used a linkage system like the Rainmaker/Vector/Sterling.

The trap itself changed as well. Initially, it was more like the Epic, but he ran into patent problems, and changed to an iris-style door. In the end, it still has all the same problems that all trap-style systems have.

Plus, as with the Cocker, it was more complex that it needed to be to get the job done.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:31 PM   #45 (permalink)
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There were many different versions durings its preproduction cycle.

Initially, they used a dual-ram system. One for the valve, and one for the door. Then a small DC motor was considered, and eventually, later versions used a linkage system like the Rainmaker/Vector/Sterling.

The trap itself changed as well. Initially, it was more like the Epic, but he ran into patent problems, and changed to an iris-style door. In the end, it still has all the same problems that all trap-style systems have.

Plus, as with the Cocker, it was more complex that it needed to be to get the job done.
I know exactly what they ran into. I was looking at a way that would eliminate the need for two linked systems and came up with something. I ran into cycling issues, and lost focus on the project. It can work. It can be small, light, and fast, but I just don't think it (talking about mine) would find a place because it's just so different. With patent filing fees as low as they are, maybe I'll just write one, file, and then show it off to see what people think.


EDIT: Thanks for the info. It's fascinating to see what people work on and it's a shame a lot never makes the light of day.
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For those complaining about the way the foregrip/regulator looks, it isn't the one that is coming with the gun. Jack has already mentioned that it will not come with different grips and a different foregrip.
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