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Old 11-19-2010, 07:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Looks like a stock phenom barrel now that I think about it.
I'm sure it is.
The loader, grip frame, hose, and backcap all looked sourced from the X-7.
In fact, I think A5s have already been coming with that loader for a while.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The flatline looks awesome compared to the old one!
What? I mean... what? The A5 flatline is the coolest looking barrel around, it looks pure business. This, this is just another H&K rip. Meh, I say.

Oh and by the way, has there been a redesign of the HE grip at all? That's easily the most common return we have, not fun.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Still rather have a BT4 for half the price than this...
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:08 AM   #24 (permalink)
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The flatline looks awesome compared to the old one!
The flatline is the old one haha. It's the same as the 98s' only it doesn't add an inch to the profile.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:21 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The flatline is the old one haha. It's the same as the 98s' only it doesn't add an inch to the profile.
It does resemble the shape of the first Flatlines, but they've added more detail to make it more closely resemble an MP5-N forearm.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:23 AM   #26 (permalink)
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it'd be pretty cool if they included a sliding stock, a 9mm curved mag, and a new flatline, kind of like bt did awhile back with the bt4
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:30 AM   #27 (permalink)
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I like the update a lot. The only thing puzzling is why not just remove the lip entirely? I don't know of anyone who actually likes the lip.
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:06 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I don't think so man, it looks to me like they just switched to the Phenom paddles.
well then, no sale for me lol. the day they come out w/ one that comes stock w/ a metal ratchet (I mean really? how hard is it, not enough pot-metal in all of china or something?) ill get one to put back in the stable.

dont get me wrong, unlike lots of people I love the cyclone design, it was something truly original and a good idea, but you cant have a part like the ratchet for which the most is asked of on the entire gun made of cheap plastic!
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Old 11-20-2010, 01:22 AM   #29 (permalink)
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They dont use metal because its the wrong material. Tippmann generally doesnt use plastic parts just to cut costs, if a metal ratchet worked better they would put it in.
After market companys make products that they can sell to people, not products that necessarily improve the performance, just look at all the bolts and squishy paddles made for Tippmanns. useless.
The ratchet Tippmann uses is designed to flex, its part of the whole feeding system, design to be easier on the paint.
they have changed the ratchet material at least a half a dozen times, trying to find the perfect balance of strength with flex. first guns out it was almost rubber, then it was hard as stone.
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They dont use metal because its the wrong material. ....

they have changed the ratchet material at least a half a dozen times, trying to find the perfect balance of strength with flex. first guns out it was almost rubber, then it was hard as stone.
I see your point, its possible that all the ones I dealt with back in the day were a bad type of material. to be absolutely honest mine was fine but based on what I was seeing in the field and online (a5og) i was always worrying when mine was going to go (apparently unjustified). I can see why flexibility would be desired.
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