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Old 05-09-2012, 04:44 AM   #1011 (permalink)
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Good, I like the name J12
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:48 AM   #1012 (permalink)
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Nice I like it...so Ill have a T2 and a J12
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:59 AM   #1013 (permalink)
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Gun is ugly. Looks like every other speedball gun out there, except it's pump action, so it's worse. I can't see what innovations this thing has that make it stand out from other pump guns in performance. Any improvements in internals would hardly be noticable if you have to pump it after every shot.


This is one thing I never get. Every
Year paintball technology improves incrementally. Things get smaller, simpler, more efficient. But the guns don't evolve. They still look like some alien zappy ray gun, still have a bulky hopper up top (you would think a pump gun might benefit from a magazine feed considering it lends itself to a conservative play style), and in this case, the makers didn't even try to hide the air line in the grip.

Wonder how much it costs.

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Old 05-09-2012, 12:13 PM   #1014 (permalink)
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Well, if you don't like it, then don't buy it. Everyone has their own opinion on what looks good and what functions best for them. So we take that as your opinion and that is fine. But no need to be rude.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:31 PM   #1015 (permalink)
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Gun is ugly. Looks like every other speedball gun out there, except it's pump action, so it's worse. I can't see what innovations this thing has that make it stand out from other pump guns in performance. Any improvements in internals would hardly be noticable if you have to pump it after every shot.


This is one thing I never get. Every
Year paintball technology improves incrementally. Things get smaller, simpler, more efficient. But the guns don't evolve. They still look like some alien zappy ray gun, still have a bulky hopper up top (you would think a pump gun might benefit from a magazine feed considering it lends itself to a conservative play style), and in this case, the makers didn't even try to hide the air line in the grip.

Wonder how much it costs.
i agree the body could have been more aggressive looking
im still waiting for somebody to do a karni-esque job on somethin!

this is built as a tourny marker, its built for high bps AT, its not built to be conservative, mag fed would hinder that, go check out the SR1 that they are working on.... that sounds more up your alley

this has all new internals, that are still under wraps to the general public

having a newer internal system WILL be noticeable BECAUSE we HAVE to pump it every shot, we play pump, we enjoy pumping, we could be lazy and hide behind a computer board and a sensitive trigger... but we dont!
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:11 PM   #1016 (permalink)
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I can't see what innovations this thing has that make it stand out from other pump guns in performance. Any improvements in internals would hardly be noticable if you have to pump it after every shot.
Have you been playing pump long or at all? For starters any improvemnt in efficiency with a pump action (as you call it) guns is a benefit. Smaller tanks smaller profile make it easier to work your way around the field. Stability from the AT not rocking your finger and a smoother pump equal out to a flatter/stable firing platform. Now if you do the wild west/sarah conner shotgun pump on it then yes, nothing will help on a pump action gun.

As far as the outside goes, it has grown on me. Yes, it looks like a space dildo, however that was what the style of the guns was supposed to closely reflect (I think that was mentioned). If you want bulky and clunky go with a Traccer it has picatinny rails and allsorts of cool tactical looking features, me simple and clean wins out. Again my opinion.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:27 PM   #1017 (permalink)
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I agree with Jkoselka function over appearances
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:41 PM   #1018 (permalink)
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Any improvements in internals would hardly be noticable if you have to pump it after every shot.
You're joking, right??? Did someone put you up to this??? Come in, act like a newb, knock CCM in their own thread, try to get a bunch of fan-boys all irritated???

LOL!!! That's pretty funny...
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:20 PM   #1019 (permalink)
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Nice I like it...so Ill have a T2 and a J12
I have a T2 and a S6.

2x6 = 12 so J12 sounds good to me too as I'm going to buy one as soon as possible
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:26 PM   #1020 (permalink)
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the makers didn't even try to hide the air line in the grip.
i like the airline. standard hose sizes are a blessing. open space with room for using the tools, and if i want to change the setup i can do it myself instead of buying a whole other damn gun because nobody makes aftermarket in-grip proprietary hoses.
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