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Old 05-27-2011, 01:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Besides the useless marketing copy above, what are the changes from gen 6 to 7? It looks the same to me.
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Besides the useless marketing copy above, what are the changes from gen 6 to 7? It looks the same to me.
I'm pretty sure it's just a second velocity ajuster and the first strike milled breach.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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They just make sub- standard markers at premium price. I love their concept but their execution leaves something to be desired. Is this one a leap ahead? I don't know but I'm not in any way tempted to try their product again after my previous experiences.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:59 AM   #14 (permalink)
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They just make sub- standard markers at premium price. I love their concept but their execution leaves something to be desired. Is this one a leap ahead? I don't know but I'm not in any way tempted to try their product again after my previous experiences.
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I can see these T68 markers being marketed with a $199-249 price tag, and NOT at the current $450 price tag for the Gen7 T68 marker. That is simply outrageous for a mag-fed spyder. The quality isn't even there for the price tag that their currently marketing at. RAP4 is simply too focused on making their T68 platform to actually look like an AR/M[X] that they overlook simple part design issues and simplicity. Simply put, they're too focused on doing something in a hurry than to do it right. Don't get me wrong, they have the right ideas and it's more than I can ever hope to accomplish, but I can't help but be critical to see the 'mistakes' that are being made. Pertaining to the Gen7 platform, RAP4 has released a new style breech that integrates a different shaped feeding port to accept the First Strike rounds as well as integrates A5 style detents. This new breech should be compatible with the Gen6 platform. But sadly, RAP4 released a marker that is First Strike compatible but without the First Strike ready magazines, the 'D-Mags'. Which sadly, won't be out for a long time..so many of your hopes will essentially be lost because of this.

Furthermore, the only main difference(s) between the Gen6 and Gen7 is that the Gen7 is First Strike ready and has dual velocity adjustments (the dual velocity adjustments are for the users that have the 'air-tank-in-stock' option where the button butt-stock guide is used, which is located in front of the rear velocity adjuster when installed. So adjusting the velocity with one method can be quite tedious if not difficult on the fly. So with dual velocity adjusters, you can roughly tune the rear adjust and further adjust the velocity via the front adjuster with ease). Other subtle differences include a dual weaver rail butt-stock adapter block for slings, a button style butt-stock guide arm, a 'new' flattop weaver rail with more slots, a slotted charging handle for quick bolt access, a quick-flip safety switch, and of course the new A5 detent system. The subtle differences in the Gen7 are already on the later Gen6 models, so basically the main differences are essentially..the MAIN differences. Is this enough to suede you to 'upgrade and/or replace' your Gen6 to a Gen7 model completely? Probably not. But is it enough to 'convert' your Gen6 INTO a Gen7? Simply, Yes, I think so. But again, the price tag is not where it should be. These are just mag-fed spyders, fellas..no trickery here

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Old 06-15-2011, 11:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I can see these T68 markers being marketed with a $199-249 price tag, and NOT at the current $450 price tag[...]
I would have to agree. At this point it would take a price point lower then the T9.1 and availability of FS magazines to get me interested in them.
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