Deadlywind Gun Prototype - Page 4

**Entropy** · 10-25-2011, 09:42 AM

I talked at length with him about his new proto type. Its an Inline Popit similar to the marq but its driven in a very different way. His Goal was a marker under 1lb, this one is just a hair over without trigger, battery and board. As for release date? We were discussing something like maybe two years more development.

This works really nothing like the older Aedies prototype and we talked about that too. Beyond the MQ problem that everyone knows about their were other hurdles he had to overcome with the design. What he said we loved about the design was the high CPS the marker could achieve (around 100) but that the new direction he was headed was the inline popit. I think the reason the regulator (which would be on the base of the grip frame) and the trigger/board were missing has more to keep other companies from giving him grief. From what I could see the frame was made to take parts that exist on the market today, mainly an Axe or mini Reg. Which he said he would be changing out for his own design latter, but mentioned that it would have to be a meaty regulator to have the surface area required to keep it consistent. So much similar in size to the Axe Reg.

I was excited about the new valve, it seemed pretty simple and easy to maintain. The back half of the assembly looked like it "could be" (because I really couldn't see it) a fasor type ram/bolt sail assembly with a rather large popit in front of it fallowed by the ventury bolt. All packed neatly into a tube no larger than the bolt. The detentes were just a couple he had hanging around.

I love the idea of it. Hope it gets decent efficiency. I couldn't tell you if he had volumizers in either of the front or back grip frame as they were both closed up but if it were similar to the G6R's that would give it some of the needed volume to get decent numbers.

So yeah that's what we talked about.

WillyW0nka · 10-25-2011, 04:23 PM

It was definitely intriguing. I liked the way it felt in my hands, but then again you could put Dye sticky grips on a porcupine and it would be comfortable.

uv_halo · 10-26-2011, 08:17 PM

I have been a Deadlwind fan since they started products for the Ion. I'd really like to see Colin's company grow to be a major marker manufacturer!

palerider · 10-27-2011, 11:00 AM

It's cool and all and I enjoy DW products. But how many ways do I need to shoot a .68 paintball? When played with it will shoot 285 fps. 15 BPS is kinda the standard so what if it shoots faster. Sure it's light but throw a tank and hopper on it and now it's not. I hope it does well. But it's not so much better than what I have, that my 4 year old eclipse gets sold.

My 2 cents

Redivulpis · 10-31-2011, 01:12 AM

First of all, I loved my Mini. I loved my G3 (roughly the same size as the Mini), and I badly want an Axe. All that said, is it just me or does this thing look rather anemic? I totally get the "lighter, better, faster, smaller" direction the tourney scene is moving and I understand why it's moving that way, but there just seems to be no limit. I think what DW has there is an awesome example of just how far a design can go and remain functial (at least theoretically since its still in PT stage, but whatevs), and I'm all about pushing limits with design, but for an actual production design I *personally* would be terrified to even play with the thing. Most laden hoppers probably weight as much if not more than that marker, and forget about the tank. It just seems to me that with a fully loaded hopper and even a modest CF tank, the whole marker system would be out of balance. Sure with all of the weight centered in back with the air tank the thing would be a cakewalk to aim, and Velcor knows I sure need that crutch, but add in the average hopper and you have a top-heavy stick that seems about to break in half at the slightest rough handling. Much like Barbie.
That's all I have for my rant, and please DW, take my words with a grain of salt. Super Kudos for creating a very cool prototype and concept! I only criticize because I love you. G'nite.

tencent · 10-31-2011, 01:15 AM

I think it looks e-mag'ish, I like it.

Seymour · 10-31-2011, 08:18 AM

The body looks kinda like a AGD ULE body, but the detents DEFINITELY look like theyre the stock AGD ones.

Warrzone · 11-02-2011, 10:43 AM

Would be cool if they could make a all carbon fibur body for it

D3adpool · 11-02-2011, 10:51 AM

lol I thought about that too......

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Originally Posted by Warrzone

Would be cool if they could make a all carbon fibur body for it

10-25-2011, 09:42 AM	#31 (permalink)
Entropy Rec Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern NH	I talked at length with him about his new proto type. Its an Inline Popit similar to the marq but its driven in a very different way. His Goal was a marker under 1lb, this one is just a hair over without trigger, battery and board. As for release date? We were discussing something like maybe two years more development. This works really nothing like the older Aedies prototype and we talked about that too. Beyond the MQ problem that everyone knows about their were other hurdles he had to overcome with the design. What he said we loved about the design was the high CPS the marker could achieve (around 100) but that the new direction he was headed was the inline popit. I think the reason the regulator (which would be on the base of the grip frame) and the trigger/board were missing has more to keep other companies from giving him grief. From what I could see the frame was made to take parts that exist on the market today, mainly an Axe or mini Reg. Which he said he would be changing out for his own design latter, but mentioned that it would have to be a meaty regulator to have the surface area required to keep it consistent. So much similar in size to the Axe Reg. I was excited about the new valve, it seemed pretty simple and easy to maintain. The back half of the assembly looked like it "could be" (because I really couldn't see it) a fasor type ram/bolt sail assembly with a rather large popit in front of it fallowed by the ventury bolt. All packed neatly into a tube no larger than the bolt. The detentes were just a couple he had hanging around. I love the idea of it. Hope it gets decent efficiency. I couldn't tell you if he had volumizers in either of the front or back grip frame as they were both closed up but if it were similar to the G6R's that would give it some of the needed volume to get decent numbers. So yeah that's what we talked about. __________________ Feedback Tradeout Paintball LLC

10-25-2011, 04:23 PM	#32 (permalink)
WillyW0nka Active Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL	It was definitely intriguing. I liked the way it felt in my hands, but then again you could put Dye sticky grips on a porcupine and it would be comfortable. __________________ PBN Feedback MCB Feedback Macroline Guy

10-26-2011, 08:17 PM	#33 (permalink)
uv_halo Seasoned Member Join Date: Mar 2008	I have been a Deadlwind fan since they started products for the Ion. I'd really like to see Colin's company grow to be a major marker manufacturer! __________________ 1989 Line SI Bushmaster SI Deluxe SP 'Woodstalker' Ion T-9 W/FS Upgrade (work in progress)

10-31-2011, 01:12 AM	#35 (permalink)
Redivulpis I AM ACCORDION Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Central Oklahoma	First of all, I loved my Mini. I loved my G3 (roughly the same size as the Mini), and I badly want an Axe. All that said, is it just me or does this thing look rather anemic? I totally get the "lighter, better, faster, smaller" direction the tourney scene is moving and I understand why it's moving that way, but there just seems to be no limit. I think what DW has there is an awesome example of just how far a design can go and remain functial (at least theoretically since its still in PT stage, but whatevs), and I'm all about pushing limits with design, but for an actual production design I personally would be terrified to even play with the thing. Most laden hoppers probably weight as much if not more than that marker, and forget about the tank. It just seems to me that with a fully loaded hopper and even a modest CF tank, the whole marker system would be out of balance. Sure with all of the weight centered in back with the air tank the thing would be a cakewalk to aim, and Velcor knows I sure need that crutch, but add in the average hopper and you have a top-heavy stick that seems about to break in half at the slightest rough handling. Much like Barbie. That's all I have for my rant, and please DW, take my words with a grain of salt. Super Kudos for creating a very cool prototype and concept! I only criticize because I love you. G'nite. __________________ XBOX Live: Redivulpis Feedback

10-31-2011, 01:15 AM	#36 (permalink)
tencent Harb made me do it Join Date: Nov 2008	I think it looks e-mag'ish, I like it. __________________ Toxic Bakery

10-27-2011, 11:00 AM	#34 (permalink)
palerider Is really necessary Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ogden, UT	It's cool and all and I enjoy DW products. But how many ways do I need to shoot a .68 paintball? When played with it will shoot 285 fps. 15 BPS is kinda the standard so what if it shoots faster. Sure it's light but throw a tank and hopper on it and now it's not. I hope it does well. But it's not so much better than what I have, that my 4 year old eclipse gets sold. My 2 cents

10-31-2011, 08:18 AM	#37 (permalink)
Seymour Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2010	The body looks kinda like a AGD ULE body, but the detents DEFINITELY look like theyre the stock AGD ones. __________________ My feedback! http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...ml#post1615517 http://www.x7og.net/feedback-b-s-t/2...-feedback.html

11-02-2011, 10:43 AM	#38 (permalink)
Warrzone MCB Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Milton, FL	Would be cool if they could make a all carbon fibur body for it __________________ Only The Dead See The End Of The War Feedback Thread http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/f...ml#post1997293