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Old 12-23-2011, 09:22 AM   #41 (permalink)
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barrels are like women - everyone likes them for their subtle differences and personal preferences. ALthough at this price, they cost substantially less than women.

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I'm thinking 14" = 10" of control bore (optimal for the efficiency) plus enough room for the porting to make it quiet = 14".. makes sense to me if form follows function. kind of Lurker 2.0 and Kaner'ish but made by legends.
yup - that 8.5-10.5" control bore is the magic zone for pretty much every gun on the market - and the 4-6" of ported front do increase efficiency and quiet things down considerably.

I have to agree with the crowd however, jumping into the underbore market right now and only going down to .681 is about 2 years behind the curve. I mean even Planet Eclipse is doing that now.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:37 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Old 12-24-2011, 06:20 AM   #44 (permalink)
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..I have to agree with the crowd however, jumping into the underbore market right now and only going down to .681 is about 2 years behind the curve. I mean even Planet Eclipse is doing that now.
I'de say that depends entirely on the size of the paint you normally shoot and how much you like to underbore. Personally I like a slight underbore - which puts .681 suitable for .682-.685

Ive been pumping a sniper II steady since maybe 1994 and Ive been running a wedgited .682 kaner for just about all rps and procaps paint since 2005... no rollouts. not one. a few barrel breaks in that time - normally when it was raining. So I think .681 will be suitable for most paint. I don't think drg's design specs are behind the times - more like targeted at "if you could have only one barrel for your sniper - what would it be" market based on delivering the most common paint he shoots.

I'm sure there are a few guys out there who like the sub .679 bore barrels. I tried out one caribou's .678 lurker v2 in a head to head comparison to my .682 kaner and found the lurker's velocity slower on average, more erratic, the groupings larger and less predictable, and the shots louder.

Ive also tried smart parts AA & DW w/ .679 inserts. not even in the same league IMO. I keep a large bore otp w/ .679 back in my bag for those days when the paintman delivers eggs. When all else fails large bore works.

IMO*, **:
for most paint : kaner > otp > luker > DYE UL > DW > AA > mofo
for eggs : .679 largebore otp > all

I'm curious where this new lady will land in the mix.

note: *I would love a 12" PPS wedgited .685 dual spiral barrel .. but $$$. ** Ive alway been curious about the brass inserts... just never found the chance to test drive.
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Old 12-24-2011, 07:18 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Thumper, let's just say that brass barrel chokes will help any other alloy based barrel shoot almost as good as any other solid brass based barrel. Why?
Cause Velcor says so.
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Old 12-24-2011, 08:30 AM   #46 (permalink)
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oh crap - stuck in a discussion with Velcor on one side, Lord Cockerpunka55 on the other, and Mar giving out advice about women. (( now what if we ask Ty to fab an brass insert big enough for Mar's liking; plant a micro-dividebyzero device in the packaging; hand deliver to techpb for analysis - and - ring the bell and run?! - jk. Yall have a merry Christmas ))
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Despite the opinions of the Eigen barrel fanboys, this .681 barrel will be fine for most paint and actually will be a slight underbore on most paint out there. You may get the occasional case of sub .680 paint, but most paint out there is .680 or slightly larger on average.

I just find it sad that my once tightbore .687 Autospirits are now considered large bore barrels.

Looking forward to the HydroTec promise of .686 paint that is +/- .003!
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As of right now, these barrels are in soft release and are offered at a sale price of $52.99 shipped (MSRP $58.99) via USPS First Class.
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kind of Lurker 2.0 and Kaner'ish but made by legends.
Pricey when you can get a Lurker or CP for $30-40. Also, to my knowledge, the "legends" had sold their share of LAPCO and the new guys are banking on the name. I'll pass

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Despite the opinions of the Eigen barrel fanboys, this .681 barrel will be fine for most paint and actually will be a slight underbore on most paint out there. You may get the occasional case of sub .680 paint, but most paint out there is .680 or slightly larger on average.

I just find it sad that my once tightbore .687 Autospirits are now considered large bore barrels.

Looking forward to the HydroTec promise of .686 paint that is +/- .003!
An Eigen fanyboy here, but I shoot the .685 more often the the .678.
Agree that it's sad that .687 is not tight anymore
Also looking forward to HydroTech

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Looking forward to the HydroTec promise of .686 paint that is +/- .003!
but then we have to start all over with bore sizing choices.
but yes, that's an exciting prospect. I think it's time to bug them again and see what's going on with their production line.

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An Eigen fanyboy here, but I shoot the .685 more often the the .678.
Agree that it's sad that .687 is not tight anymore
Also looking forward to HydroTech
I still say it's hard to beat $80 for a 678 and 685 combo from Lurker. That's shoot any paint from .678 up to .690 nicely.
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