RAP4 Lok-Bolt, mechanical anti-chop, and lets you know when your mag is empty! - Page 7

Keebler · 01-21-2012, 09:09 AM

I think the pursuit of realism aside anytime you can get away from batteries and electric crap in my gun im happy. I don't use rap4 guns im more or less waiting for a mag fed nelson pump. (Without having to convert for example an ats). But I think this is valid but it seems like one of those things we'll have to wait and see from people who buy it. Like I said for me its cool cause its a mechanical alternative to eyes.

cranbushball · 01-25-2012, 12:09 PM

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i enjoy the idea of this mod the recocking after every mag and when theres not a ball chambered it wont dryfire on you it decocks ,iam hoping to see other mag markers go in that direction it would really add the the realism of using mag feed.with that being said the one thing i do not enjoy about this product is RAP4 themselves they make poor products and along with there poor customer service i would be waiting till another more reputable company makes a clone of it

snoopay700 · 01-25-2012, 03:35 PM

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i enjoy the idea of this mod the recocking after every mag and when theres not a ball chambered it wont dryfire on you it decocks ,iam hoping to see other mag markers go in that direction it would really add the the realism of using mag feed.with that being said the one thing i do not enjoy about this product is RAP4 themselves they make poor products and along with there poor customer service i would be waiting till another more reputable company makes a clone of it

This has been touched on, it's not more realistic. It would be a bad gun design to make it so you have to cock it when you reload as opposed to just hitting a bolt release.

russc · 01-25-2012, 04:00 PM

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This has been touched on, it's not more realistic. It would be a bad gun design to make it so you have to cock it when you reload as opposed to just hitting a bolt release.

LOL, the gun is an open bolt with almost no functional relation to an actual AR. Recocking is close enough, and kind of cool.

snoopay700 · 01-25-2012, 04:05 PM

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LOL, the gun is an open bolt with almost no functional relation to an actual AR. Recocking is close enough, and kind of cool.

I know it's open bolt, but i fail to see the point. You don't recock a real firearm, so it doesn't add to realism in my book. The Thompson was open bolt too, you just shoved a magazine in and pulled the trigger. Just say the firearm is like a Thompson, then it's more realistic than cocking the gun.

russc · 01-25-2012, 04:12 PM

But there are guns out there that do have that function...the Mac11 comes to mind. I think the CZ858, too...I'd have to look that one up. Not sure if it had a bolt release, but I remember cocking it back disengaged the lock.

The Inflicted · 01-25-2012, 04:40 PM

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This has been touched on, it's not more realistic. It would be a bad gun design to make it so you have to cock it when you reload as opposed to just hitting a bolt release.

More realistic than having the gun still cycle and go "bang" when there's no longer any ammo in it, which is what mag-fed paintball guns do.
Seems like more than a fair trade-off to me.

snoopay700 · 01-25-2012, 04:50 PM

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More realistic than having the gun still cycle and go "bang" when there's no longer any ammo in it, which is what mag-fed paintball guns do.
Seems like more than a fair trade-off to me.

I suppose so, but the video showed it still going bang. My point is that if it just caught the bolt it would be an inconvenience, especially since you would have to cock it before you put a magazine in, otherwise you would possibly get a double feed if the ball pushing on the arm is enough to make the bolt release. It just gets in the way. To each their own i suppose.

russc · 01-25-2012, 04:54 PM

Sounds to me like things will depend on whether you have their anti-chop bolt installed or not. Without the ACT bolt, the gun will stall on the lok-bolt, and require recocking whenever the chamber is empty. With the ACT bolt, it'll just recock by itself. It will also make a (slightly muffled) bang when you shoot without a ball chambered. Sounds to me like any wear issues would also be reduced with the ACT bolt, since it is spring loaded.

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snoopay700 · 01-25-2012, 05:16 PM

Technically a bolt release in a way but point made lol. Either way it's not something i would want, and i would want the ACT bolt if it was me to reduce wear. It seems like a simple fix to a problem that shouldn't exist and will cause wear quicker. I much prefer a mechanical switch which would lock out the trigger, something i've toyed around with but never actually built.

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Keebler NERDS!!! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maryland	I think the pursuit of realism aside anytime you can get away from batteries and electric crap in my gun im happy. I don't use rap4 guns im more or less waiting for a mag fed nelson pump. (Without having to convert for example an ats). But I think this is valid but it seems like one of those things we'll have to wait and see from people who buy it. Like I said for me its cool cause its a mechanical alternative to eyes. __________________ I post from my phone a lot so if there is lots of typos i apologize in advance. Happines IS a warm gun. Bang bang shoot shoot

01-25-2012, 05:16 PM	#70 (permalink)
snoopay700 Active Member Join Date: Jul 2008	Technically a bolt release in a way but point made lol. Either way it's not something i would want, and i would want the ACT bolt if it was me to reduce wear. It seems like a simple fix to a problem that shouldn't exist and will cause wear quicker. I much prefer a mechanical switch which would lock out the trigger, something i've toyed around with but never actually built.