General

[chrislognshot]

i am glad to see someone found away try to stop this issue but how are they going police something that can be hacked or replaced to look like real deal. also if your only giving out 7 out 10 man team what chance some forgot to change item or did have chance to change at last minute since some got hurt. i rather see them give all players and make sure they can not do anything to change out to look like nppl version. their got to be away to keep the thing locked in the grip handle with being remove.

[scrounger]

There is one way that has some proven effects on this problem.

For this you need to go to ION 07. I was there and the cheating, lack of reffing, and general win at all cost to a level behond all belief (just check the boards).

Alot of players and eams loudly said NO MORE and refused to patronize the future event (paintball aound the world, MAJOR TELEVISED EVENT). This killed the event and make a bold statement.

After all the temper tantrums (temp banning boycotting teams) were over, the field made some MAJOR changes. Thus improving the event and bringing players back.

Now think what would happen if honest players and teams refused to play round with cheating team or promoters.

Think the effect it would have to clean it up?

Sort of renforces the old saying.

Evil exists where good men fail to act.

Scrounger

[weerez935]

Originally Posted by DSA

You hit the nail on the head. Padded pockets and cheating goes all the way to the top of the leagues, it always has and always will. Now those who make decisions like going with one board are breaking the law by allowing one company to monopolize an entire segment of a sport. I am sure someone got paid! This is why legitimate paintball will never be anything more than what it is. For those that say cheating is in every sport, why settle for the status quo?

Originally Posted by p8ntninja

Virtue is supplying the CHIPS, not the boards. The CHIP is required by all players except pump (duh). Did Virtue get paid? Of course, wouldn't you expect to get paid as well for a product you supplied? The only way for the NPPL to do this without someone chiming saying 'well they a vested interest in so and so' is to outsource a non paintball electronics make to produce the chips who most likely have no understanding of what goes on in a tournament level paintball markers circuitry. That would have been more expensive. This chip has been in development for at least 3 years over in the Virtue camp.
Get over it.

I did not say that I wanted them to not be paid, but to some extent this is like the NPPL making an ego the only tourney legal gun. Why would any one buy from tadao if they can't use it, it is not what the pros use, or it is more expensive. Obviously if the chip set comes from virtue it would cost more for tadao than virtue.

This seems bad to me.

[shredxcam]

Nppl closes means one major league. Psp. The better league Ramping stops alot of the cheating as far as gun modes. Cap rof and call it good Just about as good as it gets. Unless u make it pump only but then people still bicker over a/t and hoppers

No one will ever be satisfied.

[p8ntninja]

Originally Posted by weerez935

I did not say that I wanted them to not be paid, but to some extent this is like the NPPL making an ego the only tourney legal gun. Why would any one buy from tadao if they can't use it, it is not what the pros use, or it is more expensive. Obviously if the chip set comes from virtue it would cost more for tadao than virtue.

This seems bad to me.

Show me where a Tadao board will not be compatible with this Virtue chip....
Just because Virtue is the manufacturer of the chip does mean they are going to slight their competition and render their boards useless in a major pro circuit. The cost of boards between Virtue and Tadao are on a pretty level price platform, granted Tadao does make the better boards I don't see Virtue outpricing Tadao

[weerez935]

if virtue is the only one capable of making the chip...why would they sell it to tadao unless it was at a higher cost?

[coyote]

Originally Posted by pinkanese

The title of this thread is really starting to bother me....

Dude, this is MCB. It is meant to be ironic. Most of the guys posting in this thread don't give a nut @ the NPPL anyhow.

[98ssuck]

I don't see this newly implemented technology doing anything to dissuade cheating. I think the only way to stop wiping is to make it much harder to do at its source. Bring back oil based paint or create a new fill that reacts with the outside of the shell upon breaking turning the fill into a solid mass.

[snoopay700]

This thread has officially become hard to read. I'm not saying i can't stand the content, just some people really need to learn how to type and use proper grammar.

[BlueDragonX]

The board transmits CPS in realtime to a monitoring station. The people in the monitoring station can then radio back to the refs on the field to pull a player if they see them overshooting. Due to the design, you can't just stop transmitting. If you're shooting on the field and they don't see data coming through in the monitoring station, they'll just pull you on account of a malfunctioning gun and your team will take a penalty.

You can't trick the chip with a special program on the board; the chip is a separate entity. You'd have to reprogram the chip itself, which is doable. However, it's possible that there are safeguards against this. For instance, the monitoring station may require the chip to calculate and transmit a checksum of the software running on it. If the programming has been tampered with then it's a malfunctioning gun and you can't use it.

The technology here is a non-issue. It's done and, assuming they implemented it right, it does exactly what it's supposed to do.

Originally Posted by weerez935

if virtue is the only one capable of making the chip...why would they sell it to tadao unless it was at a higher cost?

The chip plugs into the board. Every board made for the same gun will have the same plug on it for the solenoid. This is where the new chip plugs in to register cycles. It doesn't matter if your board is a Virtue, Tadao, or the stock board. It'll work.

The plugs are pretty standardized across gun manufacturers now, as well. I'm sure the chips will come with a couple of different pigtails to work in the majority of guns.

Originally Posted by snoopay700

This thread has officially become hard to read. I'm not saying i can't stand the content, just some people really need to learn how to type and use proper grammar.

I agree entirely. It's painful.