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Old 02-02-2012, 12:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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NPPL finally catches on

No more hand wringing. No more "we can't stop the software cheats". More than 10 years after plenty of reasonable folks suggested this fix the NPPl has caught on.
NPPL MANDATORY ROF CHIPS! and updates on event

Mandatory "ROF" chip.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No more hand wringing. No more "we can't stop the software cheats". More than 10 years after plenty of reasonable folks suggested this fix the NPPl has caught on.
NPPL MANDATORY ROF CHIPS! and updates on event

Mandatory "ROF" chip.
So you get 7 chips, for a 10 man roster? What if you want to sub a guy in? he has to use a different gun?
What if a gun goes down? he cant just grab a spare setup like every team has.

so the guy that never cheated in his life now has to put a NEW part in his already 1200$ marker because of people that do cheat.

Unless the gun MFGR's start making guns with this technology already on the board, this sucks. Will that happen? Probably not, Virtue owns the patents on the chip.

and another gripe, Board mfgr's need to put an end to "cheater modes" or "breakout modes", and block non registered software from their boards.
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I doesn't matter what manufacturers put on the boards people will find ways around. easiest thing is adjusting the debounce. So do you want them to put a lower limit on that setting? There really is no way for them to block third party software either. In today's world where every board has a USB port. There paintball community is big enough that it encompasses programmers who can get around anything. The hacks spread around online then every dopey looking kid with a laptop can unlock his board.

I really don't like the idea of a proprietary chip but I also see very few work arounds for this. The only real solution would be to force the manufacturers to make boards to meet the leagues rules. But then there are still multiple leagues all with different rules. And again we get into the point i mentioned above. And you can't not include USB connectivity, its a great selling point, the marketing departments would be enraged.

Then we have the issue that bothers me the most. What if I want to used a 10 year old marker. Are they going to make chips for every board? No. Are there even modern compatible boards for those markers? No. I realize this is a nit pick at this poitn but I think most people on MCB would argue the same.
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I can't imagine that ROF cheating has nearly as much impact on games as wiping/playing on.
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I can't imagine that ROF cheating has nearly as much impact on games as wiping/playing on.
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I haven't followed the NPPL rule changes over the years... Last I remember NPPL was uncapped semi, bounce was the issue. It's ROF now? So do they not worry about ramping, bounce anymore?

And are mechanical markers no longer allowed? The brief thing I read on this was it was required of all markers except pumps. So autmags are officially dead for tourney play now? Maybe I'd understand in the top or top two divisions, but the lowest divisions too?
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I can't imagine that ROF cheating has nearly as much impact on games as wiping/playing on.
Most teams in the upper divisions do not wipe/play on "as much" as lower divisions. I ref the pro PSP circuit and can tell you that its easier to catch and penalize a player wiping playing on, than it is to catch and penalize someone shooting fast with a "breakout mode". Penalties in the PSP are different but a simply penalty can mean total loss for the team receiving it.

That being said, You would be amazed at how many more people you get off break shooting even 2 balls per second higher.

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I haven't followed the NPPL rule changes over the years... Last I remember NPPL was uncapped semi, bounce was the issue. It's ROF now? So do they not worry about ramping, bounce anymore?

And are mechanical markers no longer allowed? The brief thing I read on this was it was required of all markers except pumps. So autmags are officially dead for tourney play now? Maybe I'd understand in the top or top two divisions, but the lowest divisions too?
its still semi, but capped at 15.
The automag can surpass the bps limit while RT'ing. so i would guess yes. Rule book states one ball per individual trigger pull.

Pump mags are also a touchy subject.
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