General

[mike31c]

The ONLY paintball products listed on Consumer Reports recall database, are both Brass Eagle

To be fair, Sheridan is also listed
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml92/92140.html

Originally issued September 23, 1992; Revised July 13, 2004
EDITOR'S NOTE: If the following numbers appear on the packaging: S397, S397W, 397, 397W, 397G, S397G, GS397W, 392, S392W, S392, 392W, 392G, S392G, GS392W, G392W, C9, CB9, CW9, CBW9, F9, FB9, FW9, FBW9, KP2, KP3 or, if the following numbers appear on the airgun: 397P, 397G, 392P, 392G, C9 SERIES, F9 SERIES, K SERIES then your airgun is an affected model and should be returned to Crossman.

[pillage]

Originally Posted by mike31c

To be fair, Sheridan is also listed
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml92/92140.html

Originally issued September 23, 1992; Revised July 13, 2004
EDITOR'S NOTE: If the following numbers appear on the packaging: S397, S397W, 397, 397W, 397G, S397G, GS397W, 392, S392W, S392, 392W, 392G, S392G, GS392W, G392W, C9, CB9, CW9, CBW9, F9, FB9, FW9, FBW9, KP2, KP3 or, if the following numbers appear on the airgun: 397P, 397G, 392P, 392G, C9 SERIES, F9 SERIES, K SERIES then your airgun is an affected model and should be returned to Crossman.

Since the recall covers the k-series, I'll offer $1 a piece to take these dangerous items off the market.lol Hell, only one of the Sheridans that I currently own has a safety. I've never tried to see if it even works.

[cockerdude]

my first marker was a be talon and the third time i gassed it up the potmetal air system inside it broke under the pressure of the 12 gram and cracked the plastic on the outside. its kinda scary to see what happens when companies like BE try to put as little quality as possible to make more money.
but still wal-mart is to blame if the store still sells recallled products. but its not so here in wichita, they have moved up to selling a renamed version called the "Sabre turbo" i belive
anyways just throwing in my 2 cents

[SN toter]

You know I don't really have a beef with BE...overall...

I got into the sport in the mid 90's with a talon, than a 'ray,a raptor, and a Rainmaker - and I have to say that if it wasn't for BE, I never would have been able to afford to get into it since I was 16 and broke. I got a like a 20 hour at min wage paycheck every 2 weeks. Now I agree with you guys that it IS a double edged sword...the quality does suffer but if they went with high end materials we'd have a high end price and lose a lot of low budget paintballers. Its kind of a no win situation...It seems to me that the older BE was made with more durable composites though, I kinda think they should bring back a revamped 'ray...mine was always reliable and durable, albiet very ugly

[Cleric]

Take it from someone who works in the construction industry where nowadays a small mistaken item can be blown into willful neglect by a sleazy lawyer.

It is BE responsiblity to make products that are able to be used be the lowest thinking person listed on the packing material. If that is 16 then that is the level to which it must be built. There is nothing wrong with using cheaper materials to build the product and make it more "affordable". But you can only drop the quality level of the materials so low when you are in the safety area of a product. How about if they started making the seatbelts in cars to just be able to withstand impact of a car going 70mph since that is the high end of the speed limit in most areas of the country. All that they had to do was make it so that you could not unscrew the changer quickly enough, ie. longer threads, to allow any CO2 left in the 12g to expel before it reached the end of the threads and allowed the changer or 12g to fly off like a bullet. I commend the fact that BE used to include detailed instructions about safety with their markers. When you sell items like this, dangerous health items when used wrong, and they are sold by people that have no clue about them, see all Wal-Mart, K-mart, Sports Authority, other chain mega-stores clerks, then the parent maker of the item must take more steps to show they have done their "due diligence" to inform the customer about all safety measures to be followed when using their product. I for one know that it would raise costs but do not think that any marker sold at one of the chain stores should be packaged without its own mask coming with it. Put the cheapest pair right in the package. Just my .02 cents.....

[SuperHiQuality87]

AHA! found it...


I think this applies to all the plastic BE's from the recent times.

Instant classic I always thought... (the strip not the gun). I must admit when I was about 14 or 15 I bought one of those with my hard-earned cash. It only lasted me about 3 12-grams worth and then the internals busted. I got pretty fed up to the point of staying clear from paintball till I got into vm-68s about a year ago...

III

[S7G]

So is there gonna be a run on to get the Blade by all the Gun Whores before it to becomes extinct?

P-3

[Crazy German]

i had one of those, well i bought it of a friend for a dollar just to mess around with, the first load of 12 grams flew out the back when i went to unload, but luckily i was aware of the problem and i blocked them off with the cap, its cheap and you get what you pay for, but for someone new to the sport i recommend barrowing a marker, if you like the sport save the cash and buy a Tippmann, thats what i did when i started out, i still have my first 98C i got when i was 13, it took me like 5 months to save the cash from mowing the lawn, and it was worth it, its still my primary marker even though i have 6 more

[Tescrash]

That's my Blade, before I converted it to undercocking.

[K_Obeastly]

now that I saw the sheridan recall my VM would also fire when you disengaged the safety if you had pulled the trigger while the safety was on.

I had a fair amount of experiance with a talon. One of the local stores used to have and indoor talon tourney that benifited toys for tots. Mine died in the last game. I could goet about 2 good shots per 12 gram with dry ice and condensation spewing out the barrel. It looked more like a civil war musket. It was down to a one on one and I ran the full length of the field and back about five times just dodging and changing 12 grams.