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Old 08-06-2012, 06:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Glad to hear these are solid markers.

What is the barrel threading on these?

If this markers success continues do you think it will eventually replace the 98 line, as they have a similar price point and target market?
They are 98 threaded, which makes for even faster disassembly. I don't think the 98 line will be replaced, it will never die!
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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strange, our field got one to try and broke it in no time. don't think they will switch over from the kee's they already get.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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strange, our field got one to try and broke it in no time. don't think they will switch over from the kee's they already get.
Yeah where the FT-12s are easy to work on... they sure do break quicker than 98's. Mostly I see issues with the air line, nothing says poorly executed and committee designed like the high pitch screech of an air fitting that only seals by friction.
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Anybody know where these are assembled? I was recommending that new players consider the Gryphon for awhile until I looked at a box and saw "Made in China" on the bottom. I'm a big fan of Tippmann, and I realize the Gryphon is their absolute bottom of the barrel line to compete in the former BE price point, but if outsourcing becomes a trend...

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Old 08-06-2012, 08:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah where the FT-12s are easy to work on... they sure do break quicker than 98's. Mostly I see issues with the air line, nothing says poorly executed and committee designed like the high pitch screech of an air fitting that only seals by friction.
I'm not really comfortable with the trigger pins being housed in plastic, to be honest. I've always liked how BTs have their trigger housings made of steel...at least our old BT-4 rentals had em. I've never had to replace a sear after 5+ years, and I think the tight alignment plays a huge part in that. The 98c trigger pins tend to have a bit of wiggle room.

I also wonder how those cast ASA's will hold up. The machined and anodized ASAs get stripped out and beaten up, so how will raw cast ASAs fare?

I do very much appreciate the fact that Tippmann has finally put a c-clip on their valve. BT's been doing that for a long *** time. Selling a non user servicable valve is a ridiculous money grab, so I'm glad to see we'll be able to swap an o-ring rather than buying a $20+ valve core. Same goes for the valve screws. See ya, glad to see them gone.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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This marker still seems better made in my opinion. I saw both of these at legends, and I was disappointed with the FT-12.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yeah where the FT-12s are easy to work on... they sure do break quicker than 98's. Mostly I see issues with the air line, nothing says poorly executed and committee designed like the high pitch screech of an air fitting that only seals by friction.
Yes, we won't be changing over until they get more reliable.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:05 PM   #18 (permalink)
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This looks incredible. I've always loved everything about Tippmanns besides the clamshell receivers with all of their screws and pins.
My thoughts exactly. These are Tippys, so they are made to be abused by renters. It's just a huge pain disassembling 20 98 Customs every time you want to service your fleet. I say well done Tippmann


By the time I am ready to buy a bunch of rental markers, hopefully these will be fully tested and the bugs worked out. Especially if there is something to the airline issue.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Anybody know where these are assembled? I was recommending that new players consider the Gryphon for awhile until I looked at a box and saw "Made in China" on the bottom. I'm a big fan of Tippmann, and I realize the Gryphon is their absolute bottom of the barrel line to compete in the former BE price point, but if outsourcing becomes a trend...
China doesn't mean bottom of the barrel. Many high end, and precision parts come from China. It's all about how much a company wants to pay to have something produced there.
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China doesn't mean bottom of the barrel. Many high end, and precision parts come from China. It's all about how much a company wants to pay to have something produced there.
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