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Old 01-15-2013, 12:15 PM   #2191 (permalink)
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That saying doesn't even apply to paintball. If it did the matrix would have been progressively better each addition since 06 and not just milling
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:25 PM   #2192 (permalink)
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It was.... Economics improved, efficiency improved, weight was reduced.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:44 PM   #2193 (permalink)
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Not equivalent to its pricing
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:34 PM   #2194 (permalink)
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The new model was the same price every year. Nobody was obligated to buy brand new... But like with cars, there's a certain allure to having the latest.

This line of discussion, and the frequency it pops up is reflective of the immaturity in the paintball community. You never hear a porsche enthusiast whining about how this years 911 pricing isn't worth the 25 horsepower increase.
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You also don't ever hear car people whining when they buy a cheap ****box and have to work on it a little to make it great.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:49 PM   #2196 (permalink)
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That's actually my point alpha. Saint is complaining that he bought a $130 gun and had to tinker with it a bit to get it up to specs. That's exactly my point. And more over is that I can't think of a single example of any current fsr markers that come perfect out of the box. Or don't have their own set of cons to go with the pros. And that's why I simply don't believe that the saying you get what you pay for holds water. Especially here. In this case you get a lot of gun for 130. Is it perfect? No. But I don't think there's a gun that is. Maybe the one that one day I'll commission to have built from the ground up to my exact specifications. But than I would have to be prepared to pay an arm and a leg for that. As far as porsche goes I don't really think much of porsche fans anyway but that would have to be a whole other thread.
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #2197 (permalink)
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It might be more appropriate to compare the Hammer-7 with the Empire Trracer.
Did those also have widespread velocity/farting problems out of the box?
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Old 01-15-2013, 01:54 PM   #2198 (permalink)
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No but he bolt fell apart. That remains to be seen with the hammer. It was also promised to be mag fed.... Eventually. This comes mag fed.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:00 PM   #2199 (permalink)
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My Empire Trracer didn't have issues. Thing was a champ brand new. I shoulda kept it (stock bolt started getting premature wear on the lip from the hammer sear, sold it, THEN they released a steel hammer... bummer).

The Hammer 7 is comparable but with mag option, dual detents and straight feed. It's a little heavier than the Trracer from what i remember, probably because the body seems meatier, but so far i haven't come across a legitimate downside.

I don't even care about First Strikes, i just think the Hammer 7 is cool, and within my peasant-like budget.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:03 PM   #2200 (permalink)
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That's another thing to consider. The top rail is aluminum and is all one piece the body. The top rail of the trracer wasnt
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