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Old 01-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #551 (permalink)
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I've posted pics and videos earlier in the thread, but here are the links to them again....the first one with the strig, the screws that attach the bracket prevents the other side of the mag to be used. The second one with the bracket around the base of the mag allows you to still load the other chamber. As you can see, you can still attach another mag to the modified one which is how I carry the FS's with that setup. The hardest part is just trying to figure out a secure way to mount the socket onto the mag, there's probably better ideas than the ones I've came up with, but they seem to be working just fine. I epoxied a small piece of copper water pipe on the bottom of the mag to keep everything lined up and to use as a spacer. I also found that the black spacer that goes into the socket to hold the anti-feedback tab in place is a hair to tight on a few balls, depending on how the seam lines up so I used some sandpaper and enlarged it slightly. That was why the marker was firing a few times and no balls came out in the first test video. It would push the balls up slightly enough to break the eye beam but not all the way into the chamber.







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Old 01-25-2013, 03:03 PM   #552 (permalink)
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i apologize if this has been answered definitively already, but i feel like im getting contrasting viewpoints from some different sources online:

is moderate disassembly required to clean out chops/breach breaks in the DAM?
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:10 PM   #553 (permalink)
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In my opinion, it is required. It may depend a little on your barrel and paint. I find when I get a breach break, the paint finds its way into a lot of little areas including on the bolt that can not be squeeged out very well and will cause you to loose accuracy. A thicker paint may not be as bad as I use Nelson Anarchy and it is a pretty thin paint. I pull the barrel, eye pipe and support piece and the bolt as soon as I get to the staging area whenever I have a breach break.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:48 PM   #554 (permalink)
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I've posted pics and videos earlier in the thread, but here are the links to them again....the first one with the strig, the screws that attach the bracket prevents the other side of the mag to be used. The second one with the bracket around the base of the mag allows you to still load the other chamber. As you can see, you can still attach another mag to the modified one which is how I carry the FS's with that setup. The hardest part is just trying to figure out a secure way to mount the socket onto the mag, there's probably better ideas than the ones I've came up with, but they seem to be working just fine. I epoxied a small piece of copper water pipe on the bottom of the mag to keep everything lined up and to use as a spacer. I also found that the black spacer that goes into the socket to hold the anti-feedback tab in place is a hair to tight on a few balls, depending on how the seam lines up so I used some sandpaper and enlarged it slightly. That was why the marker was firing a few times and no balls came out in the first test video. It would push the balls up slightly enough to break the eye beam but not all the way into the chamber.

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Thought you had an actual box mag, like the rap4 box mag, I have seen your q-lloader mod, it's still pretty cool.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:10 PM   #555 (permalink)
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Sorry, just meant that it accomplishes the same thing of a high capacity mag under the marker...
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:15 PM   #556 (permalink)
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If you cant the gun to the right to use that sight, what happens to everything left of the barrel?
Actually, if I were to run a DAM... I'd just have the sight mounted square on top. I shoot with both eyes open anyway. If your referring to the loader sticking out... if not your loader next to the sight, than your head behind it. Something is gonna be there to get hit. If your analyzing your profile by that slim a margin... I've got nothing for you.

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Thats great for a regular sight or scope, but if you want to take full advantage of fs rounds, an adjustable riser is the way to go. If you canted one of those at 45 degrees, youd have to tilt the marker to compensate when firing with any sort of elevation adjustment. While this is a perfectly good solution, it can lead to inaccuracy at range if you dont have the marker tilted just right. It also can lead to your hopper sticking way out if youre not going pure magfed.
Why not just aim high? Aim at the head for a chest shot, etc...

I mean, if these projects are just to satisfy that tinkerer need, I get it. It just seems like you're trying to reinvent the wheel.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:20 AM   #557 (permalink)
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Yea balz that's kinda my point I was trying to make but some took it as attacks.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:00 AM   #558 (permalink)
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Actually, if I were to run a DAM... I'd just have the sight mounted square on top. I shoot with both eyes open anyway. If your referring to the loader sticking out... if not your loader next to the sight, than your head behind it. Something is gonna be there to get hit. If your analyzing your profile by that slim a margin... I've got nothing for you.
Let's say you're right handed, and you set that sight up on the left side of the gun so you tilt it slightly to use it as you suggested.

That means everything to the left of the barrel is pushed further left.

Which is great for shooting out the right side of the bunker.

Not so good for shooting out the left of the bunker unless you have a very awkward shooting style.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:52 AM   #559 (permalink)
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I agree, balz n' saint, the red dot works great without messing with it, unlike other markers like the A-5 which need something to account for mask clearance.

Only if you use a riser would you have to tilt the marker in order to make an offset work. If you want to use an offset with a regular red-dot, you're good. Like he said earlier, you just aim higher or lower to compensate. However, I don't really see a reason to use an offset at all for a red dot (maybe for a longer scope?), since the marker is well designed and gives you plenty of room before the hopper, and the stock is low enough to permit beautiful mask clearance. Unless of course, when you shoulder the marker, you naturally look down the left or right side of the marker, in which case an offset might be used just to put the sight where you look. I ran a 45 offset on my A5 forever and now its weird being able to properly sight down the marker. Hooray for a good design.

Just played with it today in fact, using a red-dot mounted directly on the rails. No frills, no offset, nothing crazy. And it worked beautifully. Plenty of mask clearance, great line of sight under the hopper.

BTW, I'm sorry if we got too defensive of our mods. Not the intention.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:22 AM   #560 (permalink)
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Actually, my first thought was that the gun had a straight, center drop from the loader where I would have put the 45 on the right hand side. More of a natural move to cant to the left... For right handed shooters anyway.

For me, any plans to own a DAM have been shelved until I build an AR. Which, sadly enough will only be a little bit more $$$.
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