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Old 01-30-2013, 09:44 AM   #51 (permalink)
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And what happens the first time they put one into someone's eye? Perp or bystander.

Just real quick: NO WHERE in the article of the dna gun did it say it would be used exclusively for riots. The whole riot scenario was put forth by a member here
for the first point I would say that in england it would probably be seen as excessive force
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:27 AM   #52 (permalink)
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So was she a friend of yours or just some poor girl you exhumed with a google search to make a point?
No, she was a bystander at a "riot."
I'm surprised you hadn't heard of her.
Her killing lead to a widespread review of the use and procurement of "less than lethal" launchers.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:39 PM   #53 (permalink)
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They talked about this on my local radio station. Calling it a "Orange Nerf Gun" that "shoots pellets". It made me laugh. I thought, I want to shoot one of the radio hosts with that "Nerf Gun" and see if they still think it's like a Nerf Gun. ha ha.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:12 PM   #54 (permalink)
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No, she was a bystander at a "riot."
I'm surprised you hadn't heard of her.
Her killing lead to a widespread review of the use and procurement of "less than lethal" launchers.
You must remember this guy views Miss Snelgrove as a rioter and thus by his logic she got what she had coming to her.

BTW Two of my very close friends who just happen to be cops (one OPP the other 42 Division) also seem to think they work with some low functioning primate types. Maybe they have cop issues too huh? Don't get me wrong douchebags abound in every line of work and there are some excellent humans working as police, it's jut more of a problem for the citizenry when thugs are given a gun and a badge to go with their hubris.

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Old 01-31-2013, 02:10 AM   #55 (permalink)
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If it blinds the perp, who cares... and there's no such thing as a bystander at a riot. Anyone with half a brain would have left long before the cops got there.
Hey there now. Thats not true. Remember the Vancouver Stanley cup riots? More than half the people there were not rioters. It was trouble makers/d-bags mixed in with peaceful folks who were there just for the game. I knew quite a few people who were there and were pretty dam scared when people started to get violent and there wasnt anywhere to escape to. Similar to the g20 summits in Toronto. There were a lot of peaceful demonstrations that were crashed and transformed by troublemakers into "riots".
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There's nothing trivial about less-lethal weapons. They're just one stop on the "Use of Force Continuum" and yes, once in a blue moon someone dies because of them. Your odds of surviving a taser shot, or some pepper spray are a lot better than with a bullet. So take your pick. Because without them it goes from knuckles to batons and ends with gunfire. Adding a step in there somewhere is the humane thing to do, because doing nothing isn't an option.


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Hey there now. Thats not true. Remember the Vancouver Stanley cup riots? More than half the people there were not rioters. It was trouble makers/d-bags mixed in with peaceful folks who were there just for the game. I knew quite a few people who were there and were pretty dam scared when people started to get violent and there wasnt anywhere to escape to. Similar to the g20 summits in Toronto. There were a lot of peaceful demonstrations that were crashed and transformed by troublemakers into "riots".
Alright, maybe I was a bit over the top... and riots over hockey just sound silly. That being said, the "riot," no matter how it started, still needs to be addressed. Sadly, good people can, and probably will get hurt. Like I said above, doing nothing isn't an option. Police can't wait on the sidelines until the field is clear of "peaceful demonstrators" while the anarchists tear sh*t up.
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:30 PM   #57 (permalink)
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If we can't keep the politics and personal attacks out of this thread it will be closed.
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If we can't keep the politics and personal attacks out of this thread it will be closed.
Agreed. Why cannot we all just stick to condiment jokes?
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