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Old 11-17-2013, 08:09 AM   #861 (permalink)
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No need to get nasty and childish. I only question your theories because you're still hiding behind meaningless credentials yet, during previous interactions, have demonstrated a complete lack of understanding in the most basic of engineering principals. Who could fault me for that?

Slander to divert attention from valid points which you can't refute is only as effective as the audience is gullible....

No need to also lie about doing testing.

It's telling enough that instead of initially stating something like..
"The cycle time at Xpsi is Yms because we tested and tuned for it...",
you resort to statements like..
"we didn't hear shootdown at 42cps with a rag covering the muzzle and it's probably capable of... ".

Like I originally said, no one cares you didn't actually do any testing. Don't get all self-conscious about it. Just a tube and solenoid after all, right. I just figured since you market your company as 'completely open', maybe you would release some test data, which supports your guesses, if there was any.

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Old 11-17-2013, 12:27 PM   #862 (permalink)
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No need to get nasty and childish. I only question your theories because you're still hiding behind meaningless credentials yet, during previous interactions, have demonstrated a complete lack of understanding in the most basic of engineering principals. Who could fault me for that?

Slander to divert attention from valid points which you can't refute is only as effective as the audience is gullible....

No need to also lie about doing testing.

It's telling enough that instead of initially stating something like..
"The cycle time at Xpsi is Yms because we tested and tuned for it...",
you resort to statements like..
"we didn't hear shootdown at 42cps with a rag covering the muzzle and it's probably capable of... ".

Like I originally said, no one cares you didn't actually do any testing. Don't get all self-conscious about it. Just a tube and solenoid after all, right. I just figured since you market your company as 'completely open', maybe you would release some test data, which supports your guesses, if there was any.

Best of luck.
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Old 11-18-2013, 04:21 PM   #863 (permalink)
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Question: Instead of having everyone get feisty, could J4 do an actual test to determine those numbers instead of saying "it should do"?

Realistically, it's a mac 33. I have shot ~38bps over a chrono with my ion. Others have gotten up to 42bps on video (not cps.. bps..). No one is going to be shooting that fast. It's stupid.

It'll serve as some valuable data in terms of what we can actually play around with AND it will appease POE and the other people who are interested.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:28 AM   #865 (permalink)
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Question: Instead of having everyone get feisty, could J4 do an actual test to determine those numbers instead of saying "it should do"?

Realistically, it's a mac 33. I have shot ~38bps over a chrono with my ion. Others have gotten up to 42bps on video (not cps.. bps..). No one is going to be shooting that fast. It's stupid.

It'll serve as some valuable data in terms of what we can actually play around with AND it will appease POE and the other people who are interested.
We could do the testing up at the shop the week of thanksgiving? just saying..
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:29 PM   #866 (permalink)
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Had a whole reply to this, internets ate it. The new shop chrony should be in today, with data outputs. I would be doing that anyways.

That being said:

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Is an issue.

Stated:

"So, I am ignoring him like the moderators have suggested."

Per a text: "POE: Don't engage him. Ever"

So I asked some mods what the deal was:

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He likes to argue. He'll get a bone to pick and dog you with it. Best tactic is to ignore him. Don't even reply to him.

Are you a Manufacturer on PbNation?

Complain to John Dresser or Ed and he'll get a vacation.

Complain to Mike @ TechPB if that's where it is. Mike is pro industry.

He's too smart to get caught directly flaunting the rules.
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Not sure. I do know he was banned on TechPB for something nutters.

Check the members list on TechPB for P0Ev2 or something. It could have been for harassing a user IRL.
Plus a couple years ago on an unrelated thread under a different handle a mod told me he had confronted a guy a few states away. It was stated as if it was in person, might have been directly or over an IRL - he was warning me because I have children. I made the mistake of ignoring it.


POE's reputation, including his claim that a paintball airtank holds enough energy for 16,000 shots because he had a class in thermodynamics, should add some perspective.


I am no going to do anything to encourage him on these posts, and I am ignoring him. If it continues I will just abandon this.

There is no reason to allow ourselves to be the kicking bag for a badly mannered engineer(?) who has this reputation and these issues. He is a smart guy, but a troll none the less.

I am not going to jump through any hoops to appease him, and at this point even if I had collected all of my scribbles over the years into a nice excel file, I sure as hell would not share it now.

The only professional choice is to ignore and to not engage, as I was warned.
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I wasn't insinuating any wrongdoing. I was just trying to lighten the mood. Sorry.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:11 AM   #869 (permalink)
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No worries! Emoticons always help.

Though, claims of libel and slander do need to be taken seriously.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:14 PM   #870 (permalink)
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It won't come with a conversion kit for mech or pump - you can pick up the kit for mech, it will drop in.

The pump will be it's own beast, since the patent covers a wide range of options one of those is really well suited for pump. Just tiny. It makes a lot of sense to make the pump its own platform. But one that can be converted to mech or electric.
Oh. I thought the price included those things. how much are they? avalable now?
7paintball. you gonna do some tests to show poe its fine at 15Bps or did J4 say not to? maybe just send it to people that PM you so he dont get the data?
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